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# 826 : Monday 11-12-2017 @ 17:05
 
 
Someone said :

Article 50 is reversible, a confirmed by John Olav Kerr who contributed to drafting it.
The EU Commission stated that they considered the triggering of Article 50 as "not unilaterally" irreversible, but that is just a political statement , not a legal advice. It mens that the UK would have to grovel a bit to reverse the situation, and would lose some past advantages, so that no other nation gets the idea of using Article 50 to blackmail the others.

So the revocation will require some negotiations, but it is absolutely possible.

Article 50 is a declaration of an intention to leave, not a notification of withdrawal . As long as no agreement making the Treaty inapplicable is taken, it can be revoked. They will not need to reapply unless they change their minds AFTER the official leaving date (date which could be extended by common agreement).

It's impossible that they don't leave having voted for it by popular vote and in parliament , technically of course everything is possible but they are exiting even if they change their minds. The reality is leaving isn't really leaving because they've already begged for a transition phase which means 2019 becomes 2021 and in reality this will probably become 2025 do you think the British have done any preparation at all? This phase might even be 9 years !!!!!!!!!! Breaking up is so hard to do.
This implementation might become the permanent condition ? Who knows they don't ... it might be the best they can negotiate .
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# 827 : Tuesday 12-12-2017 @ 17:43
 
 
The EU are David Davis proofing the agreement they have made any any future agreements they will make after his admitted " mistakes" and they are surprised at Mays different versions of what she agreed to for her home audience compared to Brussels.
Means a bad deal.
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# 828 : Wednesday 13-12-2017 @ 13:41
 
 
Canada + is a terrible deal because the EU won't include a services deal on which the UK economy is dependent .
Norway is best but includes free movement , the realities of decreased EU immigration and in fact emigration of key personnel from vital services might cause a turnaround on this issue but then again ?
Norway pays to access and is a rule taker
Canada has a limited deal but it's free
This is the choice of the brexshitters who have caught themselves up in red lines and have fallen over the Irish border.
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# 829 : Monday 18-12-2017 @ 18:49
 
 
The brewankers want to take away the right to paid holidays!
And increase working hours ....
They said they wouldn't but those naughty brexshitters .
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# 830 : Tuesday 19-12-2017 @ 21:34
 
 
How will the British negotiate a new welationship with the EU that keeps the Irish border open and allows them to trade openly.

They have committed to an open border and free trade on Ireland and free trade between Ireland and Britain so whatever they are planning to propose will be very interesting given all their red lines
I think it will be a big fudge and they'll go for a long transition , the Norway option and it might even be 9 years.
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# 831 : Wednesday 20-12-2017 @ 19:50
 
 
I'm right about the transition because the EU has set the end date logically to the end of the budget period but Theresa May already has panicked and said it must be negotiated to a longer period ...
It's going to be a long long negotiation
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# 832 : Wednesday 20-12-2017 @ 21:11
 
 
Oh oh
Damien green ... the porn wanker .. has had to resign for lying
We are a dup / Tory sex / corruption scandal - away from this government falling and a new election and this brexit bring torpedoed
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# 833 : Thursday 21-12-2017 @ 00:42
 
 
Someone said :
I'm right about the transition because the EU has set the end date logically to the end of the budget period but Theresa May already has panicked and said it must be negotiated to a longer period ...
It's going to be a long long negotiation

It only means that an extention passed 2020 will require paying up ! That's all...
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# 834 : Thursday 21-12-2017 @ 04:10
 
 
Someone said :

It only means that an extention passed 2020 will require paying up ! That's all...

You mean extension past don't you tsk tsk

And of course you're wrong the transition will require full payments from the uk without rebate because they are no longer a member.

May wants more time because she knows they won't be ready, look at how little they have done up to now.
Meanwhile the EU will have a new budget without the uk, they will not want it anymore .
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# 835 : Friday 22-12-2017 @ 00:52
 
 
"They will not want it anymore"

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# 836 : Friday 22-12-2017 @ 11:39
 
 
They will get blue passports , they'll all be clutching them in the long Non EU Passport queues ... bless
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# 837 : Friday 22-12-2017 @ 16:39
 
 
Someone said :

You mean extension past don't you tsk tsk

And of course you're wrong the transition will require full payments from the uk without rebate because they are no longer a member.

May wants more time because she knows they won't be ready, look at how little they have done up to now.
Meanwhile the EU will have a new budget without the uk, they will not want it anymore .

Your posts, are a lot easier on the eye now and well done.
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# 838 : Friday 22-12-2017 @ 19:52
 
 
Someone said :

And of course you're wrong the transition will require full payments from the uk [...]

How is that different from them 'paying up'?

You realise that starting a sentence by 'you are wrong' followed by the rewording of someone's argument does not make you right, nor does it make it a new argument...?


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# 839 : Saturday 23-12-2017 @ 12:41
 
 
Someone said :

Your posts, are a lot easier on the eye now and well done.

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# 840 : Saturday 23-12-2017 @ 12:56
 
 
Someone said :

How is that different from them 'paying up'?

You realise that starting a sentence by 'you are wrong' followed by the rewording of someone's argument does not make you right, nor does it make it a new argument...?

The EU insistence that the transition ends at the end of the budget period and Mays insistence that the date can be in 2020 is not to do with money.
It's to to with UK unpreparedness for exit. The EU wants them ready and May is panicked at the prospect as clearly they aren't and won't be and so she wants flexibility.
As in phase1 the EU will set it's positions the UK gov will set its positions make a speech at home fly to a European city - maybe Galway this time make another and then back down on every red line and point it's made .
It's bottom line is it has to get access for the " city" 80% of their economy depends on services if they don't get that they are fucked and it's Tory supporters who will suffer so watch and learn.
They've already tried to buy Poland with a defence treaty.
They will do anything in the next 14 months to save the city of London.
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