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# 16 : Monday 17-7-2017 @ 13:09
 
 
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Nope no ensuite

Thanks shaggy.. that's pretty much exactly what the 3 of us came up with

I'd be livid if I had to pay that for the box room.
Is there a risk that the person who gets the large double will eventually move someone else in?
Have you considered that in the agreement: it's all fine and well now that you are starting and everyone is friends, but if they start moving someone part time, then half time, then most of the time, and that the someone keeps their own rental on the other side of town, you may find that the conversation will be awkward...

Especially if that 4th party has a sense of entitlement and a strong influence on their room-mate.
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# 17 : Monday 17-7-2017 @ 14:02
 
 
I'd be paying a lot less for the boxroom too.
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# 18 : Monday 17-7-2017 @ 18:02
 
 
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I'd be livid if I had to pay that for the box room.
Is there a risk that the person who gets the large double will eventually move someone else in?
Have you considered that in the agreement: it's all fine and well now that you are starting and everyone is friends, but if they start moving someone part time, then half time, then most of the time, and that the someone keeps their own rental on the other side of town, you may find that the conversation will be awkward...

Especially if that 4th party has a sense of entitlement and a strong influence on their room-mate.

Not really sure where you're going with that! Surely the only person who could potentially share that room would be a partner of the person who already rents that bedroom?

Secondly if said person did move in, wouldn't permission have to be sought from the rest of the people in the house, you know....as a courtesy?

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# 19 : Monday 17-7-2017 @ 21:01
 
 
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Not really sure where you're going with that! Surely the only person who could potentially share that room would be a partner of the person who already rents that bedroom?

Secondly if said person did move in, wouldn't permission have to be sought from the rest of the people in the house, you know....as a courtesy?

Firstly,
Exactly. If a partner of the big-room housemate was to move it, it would not be fair to keep the rates identical.
But people often don't just "move in": they slowly do so.
And "partners", especially when new, can often change the friendly dynamic of a group!

Secondly,
that is my point. You cannot rely on courtesy when it comes to contractual obligations...

Also the double-roomers have an inherent potential to accommodate another person, even if only for a night or a week-end. And that's one of the reasons why setting the room rates can be trickier than just setting a price.

Now if all are happy with the set-up, happy days.
I still strongly believe in putting things in writing, as a rental agreement is a written contract, and can only be changed in writing: gentlemen agreements or courtesy or other oral or moral contracts have no impact on a written contract.
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# 20 : Monday 17-7-2017 @ 22:28
 
 
Most couples prefers to live together in their own place I would have thought?
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# 21 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 06:50
 
 
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Most couples prefers to live together in their own place I would have thought?

Prefer.
Does not mean they move in new place within a week of meeting. But some start moving in each other's to spend quality time without a mortgage...
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# 22 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 06:59
 
 
I'd hate to be back to the days of house sharing.
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# 23 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 07:58
 
 
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Prefer.
Does not mean they move in new place within a week of meeting. But some start moving in each other's to spend quality time without a mortgage...

Like I said already something like that would need to be run past the rest of the people living in the house. No matter how long or short term the arrangement.
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# 24 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 12:37
 
 
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Like I said already something like that would need to be run past the rest of the people living in the house. No matter how long or short term the arrangement.

"Would have to" but harder to do if not specified in sharing agreement/rental agreement...
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# 25 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 18:22
 
 
That's all well and good but what if there isn't a rental agreement and the tenants aren't tied to a lease?

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# 26 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 19:09
 
 
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That's all well and good but what if there isn't a rental agreement and the tenants are tied to a lease?

Then they would not be agreeing on who pays what, as they would be all jointly responsible.

If they agree who pays what, it should be memorialized into a written contract.
Otherwise it has zero contractual value, as the lease would be the only reference, where the whole rent is owed jointly and severally by either or all tenants.

They should really watch Judge Judy more!
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# 27 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 19:44
 
 
I've edited my previous comment. I meant if they weren't tied to lease.
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# 28 : Tuesday 18-7-2017 @ 22:57
 
 
They are paying rent: they are tied by a lease.
If it is a month to month tenancy, they may have a verbal agreement with the landlord, and there i ternal arrangement to split the rent and utilities are not enforceable.
Legally, there is always a contract!

But then they will have to rely on good comradry and common sense. Not the smartest of arrangement.
So at a minimum they have to discuss alternative arrangements for rent and utilities in case someone starts tagging along for longer and longer periods of time.
Unless of coyrse they do not give a hoot, and they are easy going...
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# 29 : Wednesday 19-7-2017 @ 18:12
 
 
I've not been tied to a lease in the last couple of places I've lived in. All I have to do it give at least a months notice.
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# 30 : Wednesday 19-7-2017 @ 21:38
 
 
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I've not been tied to a lease in the last couple of places I've lived in. All I have to do it give at least a months notice.

Which is a month-to-month lease...
It is considered a verbal contract and has limited but defined rights and duties attached.
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