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Drugs, Guns And Murder In The Capital.
 
# 1 : Monday 20-10-2008 @ 05:40
 
 
Man shot dead in Dublin gang feud

A MAN was shot dead in a gangland attack late last night. The shooting took place outside a pub in Dublin's north inner city.

It was the 16th gun murder of the year, with two other men missing and presumed shot dead.

The victim was one a group of people standing outside Noctor's Pub, Sheriff Street, Dublin 1, when a gunman opened fire, wounding him in the face a number of times.

The victim was immediately put in the back of a car and taken to the Mater Hospital, where he was pronounced dead a short time later.

The scene of the shooting was sealed off and a murder investigation was begun.

The attack is believed to be linked to a long-running feud between criminals from the north inner city.

Last night's killing was the third gun murder to take place in the area in two years, despite an intensive policing operation put in place there to help stem the violence.

The latest attack will increase fears that the feud, which has now claimed four lives, is escalating after a period of relative calm in recent months.

The dead man has not been officially named, but was named by Garda sources as Gavin McCarthy, with an address at Oriel Street, close to where he was gunned down.

While he was known to gardaí in the area, he was not regarded as a major criminal figure.

However, sources last night said he had recently had a late-night street row with people linked to one side of the feud.

That feud began when well-known drug dealer and armed robber Christy Griffin, who was jailed for life in April 2007 after being convicted of raping a young girl, was first accused of the crime.

Griffin (38), Ridgewood Green, Swords, and formerly of Canon Lillis Ave, Dublin 1, was the leader of a major criminal gang which split when he was accused of rape.

One faction supported Griffin, while the other faction believed his victim's account and formed a faction opposed to Griffin and his associates.

Both sides have targeted each other through shootings and grenade attacks. While the incidents have mainly taken place in the north inner city, the violence has spread as far as Swords and Finglas.

Before last night's killing three other men had lost their lives in violence related to the feud.

In December 2006, as Griffin's rape trial approached, two men - Gerard Byrne and Stephen Ledden - were shot dead in feud-related attacks.

Ledden (28), was shot in the head at Oriel Street, Dublin 1, on December 27th, 2006. Byrne (25), of Ferryman's Crossing, Dublin 1, was shot dead in the IFSC on December 13th, 2006.
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# 2 : Monday 20-10-2008 @ 07:17
 
 
I blame the smokin ban meself.
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# 3 : Monday 20-10-2008 @ 21:52
 
 
The gangland crime is definitely getting steadily worse. The news on TV this evening said that the gunman behind last night's shooting was only 17 years old. A new generation of scum emerges...
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# 4 : Monday 20-10-2008 @ 21:55
 
 
Someone said :
The gangland crime is definitely getting steadily worse. It seems the gunman behing last night's shooting was only 17 years old. A new generation of scum emerges...

I agree. I feel that we are getting so used to it being a daily news story that we no longer are shocked by hearing of a murder in the city. Unfortunately considering how strapped we are for cash in the country, I can't see any additional funding being given to Gardai.
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# 5 : Monday 20-10-2008 @ 21:56
 
 
The guy who was shot was 21 year old Gavin McCarthy. It is apparently related to the shooting in Donnycarney a few weeks ago.
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# 6 : Monday 20-10-2008 @ 21:56
 
 
Every few years since around 1972 the government gets tougher on the drugs trade. And every few years the value of the trade doubles and the penalties get worse attracting ever more dangerous and desperate people. It's long past time to admit that a significant minority of the population will indulge in - for the most part - relatively benign illegal substances. For political reasons we're a long way from biting that bullet yet.
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# 7 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 01:32
 
 
Maybe if a few of said bullets held more smack and crack,and a little less pop,dealers wouldn't find it so deadly,reckon the jury is still out on this one,they've been out now for 36 years,they must be stoned out of their boxes at this stage on that stuff they is smokin'.
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# 8 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 16:46
 
 
Sorry, folks i wasn't around to respond since i posted. I've been searcing for a thread on this but i was surprised in not finding one. It's a topic who's pulse i like to keep a finger on.

Till the retaliation.....
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# 9 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 17:03
 
 
I can't see why the Guards still can't carry hand guns. Of course they need to be trained for that and some people will object but sending out Guards to tackle criminals with submachine guns armed with nothing more than night sticks is just insane.

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# 10 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 17:13
 
 
Someone said :
I can't see why the Guards still can't carry hand guns. Of course they need to be trained for that and some people will object but sending out Guards to tackle criminals with submachine guns armed with nothing more than night sticks is just insane.

Google Frank Shortt and Frank McBrearty. The brain dead mullahs are dangerous enough with pens never mind giving the useless cunts firearms.
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# 11 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 17:20
 
 
No need to google anything, Ili.

And I've heard that kind of argument many, many times.

The way I see it the police need to have the kind of tools that will enable them to tackle the issues they face.

The current situation is just farcical, it's like sending soldiers out to fight with sling shots.


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# 12 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 17:25
 
 
There was an article in the paper today that said the gunman was only 17. They start youg around Sheriff Street don't they?
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# 13 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 17:31
 
 
Someone said :
No need to google anything, Ili.

And I've heard that kind of argument many, many times.

The way I see it the police need to have the kind of tools that will enable them to tackle the issues they face.

The current situation is just farcical, it's like sending soldiers out to fight with sling shots.

Frodo, bar the shootout with the westies in Virginia Co Cavan, how many times have the Garda Siochana been in a 'shootout'?

The Garda Síochána will succeed not by force of arms or numbers, but on their moral authority as servants of the people.

Banana Republican, son of an RIC member and first Garda Commisionar who fought that they would be an unarmed force, Michael Staines, TD (Mayo man)
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# 14 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 17:57
 
 
Someone said :

Frodo, bar the shootout with the westies in Virginia Co Cavan, how many times have the Garda Siochana been in a 'shootout'?

It doesn't matter if they have been involved in one so far, they need to be prepared for when they will need to.
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# 15 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 18:04
 
 
Someone said :

It doesn't matter if they have been involved in one so far, they need to be prepared for when they will need to.

If they've only been involved in one, then the E.R.U will suffice.

You do know of the culture in rural Ireland. If you drop out of college or don't get the points in your Leaving Cert to do the course you want, your parents advise you to join the guards..therefore in Donegal they're referred to as college dropouts. Anyone i know from my area who joined dropped out of college. Would you trust them a gun?

I wouldn't. I would trust the E.R.U. in having firearms as they recieve the extensive training that is needed and they tend to not let anyone of inferior intellect into the fold. Your basic pig however only undergoes basic training whilst in Templemore.
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