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Drugs, Guns And Murder In The Capital.
 
# 16 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 18:08
 
 
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If they've only been involved in one, then the E.R.U will suffice.

You do know of the culture in rural Ireland. If you drop out of college or don't get the points in your Leaving Cert to do the course you want, your parents advise you to join the guards..therefore in Donegal they're referred to as college dropouts. Anyone i know from my area who joined dropped out of college. Would you trust them a gun?

I wouldn't. I would trust the E.R.U. in having firearms as they recieve the extensive training that is needed and they tend to not let anyone of interior intellect into the fold. Your basic pig however only undergoes basic training whilst in Templemore.

Ili, in over 8 years living in Ireland and having dealt with more than my fair share of Gards there is not one of them I wouldn't trust with a gun.

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# 17 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 18:30
 
 
Someone said :

Ili, in over 8 years living in Ireland and having dealt with more than my fair share of Gards there is not one of them I wouldn't trust with a gun.

Dealt? Explain. Do you pour coffee for them at a statoil station?

Were you a victim of their abuses of power? Did they shoot you while you were unarmed? Did they bring three hundred charges against you in one day and you innocent? Did they plant explosives to frame you just because they didn't like you? Did you die from their beatings in a police cell? Obviously not.

Explain to me what dealings you've had with Irish police that makes you trust them with firearms. Did you train them?
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# 18 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 18:45
 
 
Someone said :

Dealt? Explain. Do you pour coffee for them at a statoil station?

Were you a victim of their abuses of power? Did they shoot you while you were unarmed? Did they bring three hundred charges against you in one day and you innocent? Did they plant explosives to frame you just because they didn't like you? Did you die from their beatings in a police cell? Obviously not.

Explain to what dealings you've had with Irish police that makes you trust them with firearms. Did you train them?

I don't have to explain, won't. Suffice to say I was on the right side of the law.

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# 19 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 18:47
 
 
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I don't have to explain, won't. Suffice to say I was on the right side of the law.

So in reality you just wanted to sound like Michael McDowell.
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# 20 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 19:03
 
 
Someone said :

So in reality you just wanted to sound like Michael McDowell.

In reality I just explained my view based on my personal experience and knowledge of this country and other countries where "regular" police forces do carry guns and where this is not an issue. As far as Europe goes, the Irish police force is pretty much an exception. I believe most countries would have armed police.
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# 21 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 22:33
 
 
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The gangland crime is definitely getting steadily worse. The news on TV this evening said that the gunman behind last night's shooting was only 17 years old. A new generation of scum emerges...

where do they get these weapons from? this is not America
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# 22 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 22:36
 
 
Someone said :

In reality I just explained my view based on my personal experience and knowledge of this country and other countries where "regular" police forces do carry guns and where this is not an issue. As far as Europe goes, the Irish police force is pretty much an exception. I believe most countries would have armed police.

I do not want to complain about the lack of guns from the geographical proximity of the the garda's genitals when it's so hard to see them patrolling the streets..it's like they're all sleeping or something...
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# 23 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 22:45
 
 
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where do they get these weapons from? this is not America

Criminals in Dublin rent these firearms with a set price for the gun, then you pay for every bullet you don't bring back.

I'm told it's usually 100euro per bullet and the price of the gun depends on the make/model/age but a regular handgun for a night would set you back approx. 500-700euro
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# 24 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 22:45
 
 
I wouldn`t arm the rank and file Garda with anything more dangerous than lollypop sticks.It takes a lot of training to carry a firearm and years of experience to know when to use it.
Then if a firearm is used the person has to live with it.
Spending in Ireland is controlled by a bunch of gobshites,can you imagine what sort of training would be given.
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# 25 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 22:46
 
 
Freddie gang's death threat over love affair

A young man having a love affair with the girlfriend of one ‘Fat’ Freddie Thompson’s gang was in hiding today after gardai learned he was to be murdered.

The man – who has previously been mutilated by the gangsters – had to be rushed out of the city on Saturday.

“Thompson’s crew learned he was having an affair with one of Freddie’s key lieutenant's girlfriend. The order was given that he be whacked,” said a source today.

Garda intelligence indicated that the murder would be carried out on Saturday before Thompson was due to travel to Liverpool for the Wigan game.

“This guy was seeing the girlfriend of one of Freddie’s men and that’s enough for a death sentence in this city now,” said a source.

Gardai in the south inner city immediately went on a state of high alert and saturation policing was introduced in the Kevin Street and Kilmainham police districts.

Freddie himself has three times attacked men who were allegedly seeing his own women.

Meanwhile, officers are also investigating an incident on Saturday night, shortly after Thompson returned from Liverpool’s 3-2 victory.

Thompson sought refuge on the roof of a garden shed at his mother's Lourdes Road home on Saturday night after two of his former wingmen apparently arrived to settle an old score.

The men, including one who for a time was Thompson's right-hand-man, are believed to have been carrying a firearm which they “tossed” before being traced by detectives. The hit was to be a revenge attack for the knifing of ex-soldier Andrew Murray on October 9.

Thompson, his closest ally Liam Brannigan and two others were questioned after that daylight assault that left Murray with cut in his arms, legs and stomach. It is believed that the “Glasgow Smile” style attack infuriated some of Thompson's oldest friends who have now turned on him.

However, sources say that Freddie was “extremely panicked” when he dialled 999 and begged for immediate help.

According to sources: “He was approached by two men in hoodies with a gun as he was at the front of his mother's house.

“He ran for his life out through the backdoor and climbed on top of a shed roof to hide.”

Thompson then used his mobile to make the emergency call and told gardai that he was about to be killed.

Armed detectives, backed up by officers from the Special Branch – who were already in the area in strength because of the earlier alarm – rushed to the scene but the two would-be assailants fled.

Another accomplice is thought to have been waiting nearby in an Opel Omega that was later stopped by officers in the area and searched for drugs.

The three man, who are from the Crumlin area, were arrested and taken to Kevin Street Garda Station for a short period of questioning.

Until recently, one of those arrested had acted as Freddie's driver but he now wants his former boss dead.

Officers searched the car but failed to find a weapon and therefore couldn't charge the men with any offence.

It is believed that they “tossed” the firearm and as a result a search was carried out in the Maryland area of the south inner city. But nothing was found and the men were released.

Since the incident Thompson has gone to ground and is said to be “very upset and worried” by the latest attempt on his life. “It is becoming more serious for him all the day because it seems that different factions of his once-strong empire are now putting him on top of their hit lists,” said a source.

Brannigan (25), one of very few people to retain childhood links with Thompson, is also in hiding. It is thought that the pair may leave Ireland for one of Thompson's international hideouts, most likely in Spain.

Thompson has survived several assassination attempts – including one last February when gardai intercepted two hitmen on O'Connell Street.

He is already the main player in two city feuds. Since it began in 1998, the Crumlin/Drimnagh feud has claimed 15 lives. Separately, he is coming under pressure from the INLA who are determined to kill him.

The latest series of incidents means that he can no longer even trust his own gang members.
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# 26 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 23:04
 
 
Brother of 'Border Fox' dies

THE brother of former INLA 'Border Fox' Dessie O'Hare has allegedly taken his own life.

Paddy O'Hare (49) died in "non-suspicious" circumstances on Saturday last.

The construction boss from Keady in Co Armagh was a father of four and a successful businessman.

Although he was the brother of one of Ireland's most notorious criminals, he was never believed to have any involvement in Dessie's crimes.

Paddy had previously offered his wayward sibling work on his building sites in an attempt to introduce him to a life outside crime.

Dessie was originally a volunteer with the Provisional IRA but after a series of disputes left it in the late 1970s and later joined the INLA.

He was once considered by authorities as the most wanted man either side of the border.

It is widely thought that the economic downturn had taken its toll on Paddy's businesses and what was very profitable work was now making a loss.

Discreet

A heavy but discrete police operation was this morning preparing to patrol the perimeters of Paddy's funeral in case it could be used to target his brother.

Although Paddy was a well-known republican, he was never involved in paramilitary activity.
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# 27 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 23:11
 
 
In my 40 years in Ireland - having dealt with the police on many occasions, I have to say that when I've needed them, they haven't been there. Ever. Stuff stolen, smashed? The police were no use. People beaten up? No investigations. Someone murdered? Incompetent, arrogant and amateur investigation. ERU fine - but I don't think the general run-of-the mill can be trusted with something that dangerous until they learn some humility and remember who they're serving.

I worked in the North Inner city for a number of years and I have many friends from there who are lovely. But the area is riddled with scum who have no respect for anything or anyone. I think internment is the answer. Let the fuckers rot in a camp in the middle of nowhere until they achieve something that proves they are good enough to be let into society.
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# 28 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 23:18
 
 
I`ve said it before but I really hope I`m proven wrong.It`s only a matter of time before the offspring of some of these animals has a row in school or a dis agreement with a teacher and goes into school with "Daddys gun".
God I really hope I`m proven wrong.
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# 29 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 23:20
 
 
Someone said :
Let the fuckers rot in a camp in the middle of nowhere until they achieve something that proves they are good enough to be let into society.

Yes, not to reproduce would be a fine achievement.
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# 30 : Tuesday 21-10-2008 @ 23:29
 
 
Someone said :
I wouldn`t arm the rank and file Garda with anything more dangerous than lollypop sticks.It takes a lot of training to carry a firearm and years of experience to know when to use it.
Then if a firearm is used the person has to live with it.
Spending in Ireland is controlled by a bunch of gobshites,can you imagine what sort of training would be given.

I think a gun is handy for a police officer.
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