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Racism, A Touchy One But Worth Talking About
 
# 1 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:33
 
 
Read this text and make up your own minds:



Michael Richards Court Speech

Have a little think about this one
Michael Richards is better known as Kramer from tv's Seinfeld series.

This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act.
He makes some very interesting points. He said :

I'm proud To Be White
Someone finally said it..
How many are actually paying attention to this ?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'
'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...
You ca ll me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous plac es to live ?

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.
If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance'
OUR lives we'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that ?

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant,
but any color can be in the Miss America pageant. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
you would call us racists. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.

But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or
beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a
threat to society, you call him a racist.
I am proud.
But you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists ?
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# 2 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:33
 
 
Whats the point?
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# 3 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:42
 
 
Someone said :
Whats the point?

I tend to agree with alot of the sentiment. Equality is the ideal and should always be Equal, no one should be more equal than anyone.

Whether white, black brown red or pink, why can't people live as people and not by the colour of their skin? I DO think that there racists on BOTH sides of this debate. Black racists and white racists. Equality should mean equal status for all, not the select minorities in society.
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# 4 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:45
 
 
Poor rich white man, life must really be tough for him

I’m sure he has the intellect to understand that other races band together in America because of years of struggle to gain equal rights. Black colleges etc. exist because black people were not allowed access to many of the mainstream colleges, there is no need for white colleges, and pageant shows etc. white people were never excluded from them.
It would be great if we lived in a world where no social/racial/gender divides exist but we don’t, minorities still have to work harder, and come together, to assure equal rights.
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# 5 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:50
 
 
Anyone who thinks there is any logical truth to the guys rant has no clue to life in general.
There are black national days or parades because it is a minority, the same way there is a gay pride and not a straight pride.

People DO recognise that anyone of any race or colour can be racist, even if cramer-whatever does not.

Personally i am proud of people who make great contributions to life in general. I dont see how a person can be proud of something they have no control over such as being proud to be white/male/irish

There is nothing to learn from the statement execpt that cramer-tosser has a lot to learn about life.

Just because he says something exists does not mean people did not alread know. It comes across as coming from someone who just stepped out of a timemachine from the 1950's
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# 6 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:53
 
 
was pretty much trying to see would any one stick there neck out and give there opinion on it. It seems that most people who are in no was racist and scared shittless to say anything about it. Some friends and i got that in an E mail and we came to the conclusion that being white today means that you cannot have an opinion on this while talking to any other race with out being called racist in some way. Just the experience most of us have had
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# 7 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:56
 
 
Someone said :
was pretty much trying to see would any one stick there neck out and give there opinion on it. It seems that most people who are in no was racist and scared shittless to say anything about it. Some friends and i got that in an E mail and we came to the conclusion that being white today means that you cannot have an opinion on this while talking to any other race with out being called racist in some way. Just the experience most of us have had

I dont think you can have an opinion like 'his' without being called racist....because it is obviously racist. Obviously you can have several opinions on it without being called racist.
Its a bit of a no brainer....unless of course you actually live in cramer world where only white people can be racist
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# 8 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:57
 
 
OK forget it was him who made the statement and look at it in more general terms. Does it apply to your life and experience
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# 9 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:58
 
 
Someone said :
was pretty much trying to see would any one stick there neck out and give there opinion on it. It seems that most people who are in no was racist and scared shittless to say anything about it. Some friends and i got that in an E mail and we came to the conclusion that being white today means that you cannot have an opinion on this while talking to any other race with out being called racist in some way. Just the experience most of us have had

People have given their opinion on it! do you mean you were hoping someone would agree with him?
What can you not have an opinion on without being called raciest by other races?
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# 10 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:58
 
 
But I don't get it.

Why would the historically privileged majority in society need a pride day?

White [hetero] people have the whole of society, and the economy, built around them. They are central to the way things work. So why would they need a pride day when they're central to everything anyway?
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# 11 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:59
 
 
Someone said :
OK forget it was him who made the statement and look at it in more general terms. Does it apply to your life and experience

No.
Ive met racists from all walks of life, ive never met anyone who denied they exist

What exactly is it you agree with?
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# 12 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 15:59
 
 
Someone said :
Poor rich white man, life must really be tough for him

I’m sure he has the intellect to understand that other races band together in America because of years of struggle to gain equal rights. Black colleges etc. exist because black people were not allowed access to many of the mainstream colleges, there is no need for white colleges, and pageant shows etc. white people were never excluded from them.
It would be great if we lived in a world where no social/racial/gender divides exist but we don’t, minorities still have to work harder, and come together, to assure equal rights.

I'm with powdie on this one. Those groups, as well as gay rights groups, would not exist if we were all treated equally and fairly. The Black/white debate is similar (similar mind, not exactly the same) to the gay/straight debate.
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# 13 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 16:02
 
 
I think maps was hoping that some poor white guy might agree that its terrible how no one tackles black on white racism, or how white people dont get their own special hollidays and parades like minorotys do.........unfortunatly i think he needs to be on cramer.com to find truly ignorant fools who would buy into that.
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# 14 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 16:03
 
 
t seems that most people who are in no was racist and scared shittless to say anything about it.

Now that has to be the most illogical thing i've heard today. Just because people don't agree with this statement doesn't mean they're scared. People are already voicing their opinions on this, and making a statement like the one above is not the way to enter into a debate. A statement like that doesn't leave any room for debate.

If i agree, you win, if I disagree, I'm obviously scared shitless to say anthing about it, so you win again. Illogical!

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Don't even get me started on dissecting the utter drivel that man (kramer) was spouting. More illogical, emotive, fear mongering shite.
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# 15 : Friday 12-12-2008 @ 16:10
 
 
Thanks B Boy for deciphering that guff for me!! Couldn't figure out what Amps was saying there!!

Amps, yes its all terribly unfair that in white people are not as able to flaunt their being white, after having the monoopoly on it for the bulk of the last few hundred years *sighs*. We pay for the mistakes of our past. Opression and racism still exists in a world where the white man DOES still rule supreme so until balance and equality have filtered through every aspect of society, this will remain the case!
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