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Ireland Needs To Go Nuclear
 
# 1 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 18:54
 
 
Russia have turned the gas off on the Ukraine again
Fu#k this windmill shit' Ireland needs to go nuclear.
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# 2 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 18:59
 
 
No, it doesn't. Ireland has a very small population, therefore doesn't need to be dependent on nuclear the way Britain or France are.
We have huge resources in wave, hydro, solar, wind etc combined.

see this interesting article by Prof Igor Shvets in Trinity:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1203/12282349926 etc ...

IRELAND COULD become energy independent in less than a decade using nothing more than wind and hydro power. The technology already exists, the only thing missing is a commitment from Government, according to a Trinity College Dublin scientist.

Prof Igor Shvets outlined how we could break our addiction to oil, end costly imports and become world leaders in renewable technologies in a public talk yesterday in Dublin entitled, Intelligent Energy Options for the Future.

He also believes that pursuing such a course could help reverse the recession by diverting idle building contractors into energy- related construction projects.

Ireland faces a bleak energy future if it fails to act, according to Prof Shvets who is head of Trinity's applied physics research group. We already spend €6 billion a year on energy imports, but our energy worries would end if we moved decisively towards renewable energy options, he said.

Our daily electricity demand can peak at 2.5 billion watts but typically runs at about 1.5 billion watts. We would need no more than four large wind farms, each about 10 kilometres square, to meet all our daily electricity demand, he told his audience in Trinity's McNeill Lecture Theatre.

A greater challenge was to adjust electricity production to meet fluctuations in daily demand, for example during the 4pm to 9pm peak when usage rises sharply. The system must also cope with periods when the wind was slack and electricity production declined, Prof Shvets said.

These peaks and troughs were easily met using pumped storage hydro-electricity production, such as already exists at the ESB's Turlough Hill hydro plant. Water is pumped from a lower reservoir to a higher one at night using off peak electricity. The water is then run back down a pipe through a turbine to produce extra electricity at times of peak demand.

Bath County, Virginia has the largest such plant in the world, capable of producing 2.1 billion watts of electricity, he said. Just one such plant, based on a single artificial lake 20km square and 20 metres deep and 250 metres above sea level, would be needed to produce two billion watts and supply our national electricity requirement, he said. "It is not easy to find a 20km by 20km site but we found plenty if the lake was 750 metres by 750 metres.".

His research group found 30 possible sites for lakes of 500 metre square, dotted along our western seaboard. Developing just 10 of these would easily meet energy peaks and bridge across days with little wind, he said.

The Bath County plant cost €1.3 billion 20 years ago, but Prof Shvets believes costs here would be lower. Only one lake per plant was needed if located within a few kilometres of the sea. Even if costs were comparable this was still less than four months of oil imports.
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# 3 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 19:01
 
 
Someone said :
Russia have turned the gas off on the Ukraine again
Fu#k this windmill shit' Ireland needs to go nuclear.

Good idead. We could invade Russia and nuke the shit out of them. Yeah?
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# 4 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 19:05
 
 
If energy is such a concern go to another country. I personally do not think that we need nuclear power here
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# 5 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 19:06
 
 
Someone said :

Good idead. We could invade Russia and nuke the shit out of them. Yeah?

Now yer talking!
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# 6 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 19:16
 
 
if we nuke anywhere it should be america.
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# 7 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 19:18
 
 
The problem with wind power is it is here today and gone tomorrow. Denmark get the biggest proportion of its energy from wind in Europe yet it has still not managed to decomission 1 power station as a matter of fact they are building more. Wave power and wind power are massively destructive to local wild life Windmills (bird munchers) are also a blot on the landscape Wave power electromagnetism play havoc with some fish and the marine mammals plus the maintainance of these machines is enormosh plus the extra pylons needed on a more spread out grid, already hugely controversial.
With the next generation of the car The Toyota Prius are plug in, his estimations in energy demand growth is pants. The demand for electric cars is only going to grow and grow.
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# 8 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 19:26
 
 
Someone said :
Wave power and wind power are massively destructive to local wild life Windmills (bird munchers) are also a blot on the landscape Wave power electromagnetism play havoc with some fish and the marine mammals

Did you just make that up or do you have any hard evidence to back up those claims?
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# 9 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 19:47
 
 
well if you have 50 pennies in your pocket and never replace the ones you use, soon you will have no pennies. just like everything else we use on this planet, we think of electric as disposable (kind of. i havnt the brain power to word this right at the minute). im not sure how you can recycle elcricity but there should be an alternative but not nuclear power. but i supose if sellafeild blows we`re fucked so id say it wont much difference in that sense if we have a plant here.
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# 10 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 20:34
 
 
we couldn't even manage the Celtic Tiger without making a balls of it, imagine us trying to run a nuclear power station, FFS give us a break.
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# 11 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 20:58
 
 
I think that we should revert to steam power. Namely the steam off my piss which is about all I'd give for the hopeless commentary exhibited thusfar in this thread.
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# 12 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 21:18
 
 
@the_dude - nuke America? They're one of the best examples of democracy we have on the planet. Look at what Russia is up to - Putin the Dictator has forced his puppet to extend the presidential term from 4 to 6 years. It's likely that the Medvedev will now resign so that Putin can come back out of the shadows.

Why is Russia having problems with Ukraine - is it because Ukraine is pro-western and wants to join NATO? The Russian leaders took the recent negotiations as a chance to jeer the leaders of Ukraine for their desire to be more western. Russia is mounting a huge propaganda war against the west at the moment. Putin is a small man. If people disagree with him - they conveniently die. He's a dangerous, one-dimensional control freak and megalomaniac. His ego is going to cause big problems in the near future. This gas problem is just a facet.

The west needs to rid itself of the need for Gas from Russia. I'd love to see Wave and Wind as well as Solar and of course, efficient buildings and transport. We have to act, to free ourselves from Putin and Co. and to stop raping the environment.
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# 13 : Thursday 1-1-2009 @ 21:22
 
 
Someone said :
I think that we should revert to steam power. Namely the steam off my piss which is about all I'd give for the hopeless commentary exhibited thusfar in this thread.

Huzzah!
A dram of ether for that man
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# 14 : Friday 2-1-2009 @ 02:00
 
 
no cheezy its not meant to be thought provoking or interesting. the threads posts are what is meant to be interesting,its posts make it interesting. its meant to be my opinion on the matter in a post. surley just saying to someone you dont like the way they post would be better than tryng to be smart about it. might actually get positive results instead people "wanking out the first word" that comes to mind. the cowardly way is no way to go. and this site is full of it.

if trying to make every post thought provoking and all that is what everyone does then no wonder so many people spend so much wasted time on here.
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# 15 : Friday 2-1-2009 @ 02:13
 
 
Hydrogen for short hops,anti gravity propulsion for intergalactic travel,i'm weary waiting for this to come on stream.
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