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LGBT Group, Third Meeting On The 21st May.
 
# 16 : Saturday 19-4-2003 @ 16:49
 
 
a chara,
the mayor of paris is gay and deals very well with ALL the issues: people love him!

He works for everyone, and with everyone, especially the Greens.

He is not camp, he is dressing like a politician, smartly but nicely. And excepted one attempted murder, he only does stuff that people like: Paris on the beach, the Sleepless nights, ...
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# 17 : Saturday 19-4-2003 @ 19:35
 
 
except for the guy who almost succeeded in stabbing him to death last year.
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# 18 : Saturday 19-4-2003 @ 20:37
 
 

Did many people come to the first two meetings, Esem?

What issues came to prominence as the main ones people were interested in progressing with?

Ronan
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# 19 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 12:55
 
 
In other words, do you do what the sexists and homophobists do: judge by the cloth?
Would you be a preacher in the closet?, or of the closet?
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# 20 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 12:58
 
 
If you think that they all sound the same, don't you have a calling here for giving a differnet voice.
For giving a voice to what you think must be said? Seriously said that is, not just giving at "them all crooked", but actually articulating what can be doen to improve the life of the glb community alongside all the other communities.
See how such a voice became the Lord Mayor of Paris, being openly out of the closet in a country where people could be excluded from a party for being gay.
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# 21 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 13:01
 
 
That's pretty much an apology of the necessary to benefit from the persecution of one's kind.

Do you think that you blackmailee was happy with the situation? Or maybe we are not talking about the same kind of milking!
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# 22 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 13:07
 
 
In fact, the guy gave different explanations: he did not like gaymen, he did not like lefties, he did not like politicians.
He needed attention, and he got it. But it was not a specifically homophobic crime, and not linked to any specific association.

He was just a simply minded right wing dick. He was nothing, it does not count.

But that gave the occasion to see how Bertrand dealt with this kind of event, and as opposed to a populist pope, he did not "forgave" the assault, but he did not us it to "crack down on mounting crime figures", he justed asked and saw at the application of the law.
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# 23 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 13:07
 
 
Kill my boss Esem? Do I dare live out the American dream?
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# 24 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 13:07
 
 
In fact, the guy gave different explanations: he did not like gaymen, he did not like lefties, he did not like politicians.
He needed attention, and he got it. But it was not a specifically homophobic crime, and not linked to any specific association.

He was just a simply minded right wing dick. He was nothing, it does not count.

But that gave the occasion to see how Bertrand dealt with this kind of event, and as opposed to a populist pope, he did not "forgave" the assault, but he did not us it to "crack down on mounting crime figures", he justed asked and saw at the application of the law.
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# 25 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 13:16
 
 
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# 26 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 13:21
 
 
We were 4 and focused on:
- learning about the objective situation
- concrete actions (regular meetings, public meetings, taking part to existing lgbt actions)
- act as a neutral ground to exchange ideas between conflicting lgbt groups.
- develop thoughts about lgbt PHILOSOPHY: it was noted that the constitution (in Irish text) may give access to gay marriage.
I am adding here on my own time that the Gospel is supporting the constitutional stand, and that Ros Na Run (TG4) is a practical argument to support it.
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# 27 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 13:36
 
 

Thanks for the info, Esem.

Hopefully once it is publicised in GCN that should bring in more people.

Were all of the people in the previous meets Labour activists already or had they just come along because they were interested in the LGB stuff?
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# 28 : Sunday 20-4-2003 @ 15:58
 
 
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# 29 : Monday 21-4-2003 @ 14:06
 
 
Essem are you kidding us
the Laabour Party will act as a neutral exchange between different gay organisations. This seems like a very large objective. Us gay guys are known for our infighting, look at any recnet gay event and see the infighting that took place. I am still stunned by stories about the Hirschfield centre.
An the Labour party acting as a neutral exchange, what about the democcratic left versus Labour factions?
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# 30 : Monday 21-4-2003 @ 17:20
 
 
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