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Understanding Mental Illness
 
# 46 : Tuesday 12-1-2010 @ 18:13
 
 
Alot of people are suffering and dying from these diseases, and ffs society needs to open its mind. Jaysus when you look at all the hype surrounding Swine Flu etc, yet we cant have more done to help people who are "mentally" ill, who are suffering and unfortunately dying. Im not sayin swine flu wasnt serious or anythin but society / government needs to do more to address this urgent issue, for example the cutting of budgets for support groups receiving HSE funding.
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# 47 : Tuesday 12-1-2010 @ 18:46
 
 
What an excellent thread marlbo and I hope it helps a lot of people understand more about Menatl Health issues...

Intrepid I have suffered from a Mental Health disorder for nearly ten years now, in all that time talking to Doctors ect...I was always led to believe that a Disorder and a Illness were both the same in Mental Health..

Having a mental health disorder is soul and character destroying, many people find they hide it from family and friends..
I did this for years, especially from my immediate family, last year I started drinking heavily to cope with my problems, as do many people, then bang I ended up back in hospital..
Only this time i opened up, I won't ever forget the day a former member of this site, came to see me in hospital, she threw her arms around me and said' It doesn't matter what you have, it is who you are that matters to me'...
I came home and explained exactly to my family what is wrong and that was my turning point, I found acceptance I felt I never had before, support and love...
My family were given access to lots of information about my illness, and I stopped drinking to block it all out, now I am healthy and whole..
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# 48 : Tuesday 12-1-2010 @ 18:53
 
 
Intrepid I have suffered from a Mental Health disorder for nearly ten years now, in all that time talking to Doctors ect...I was always led to believe that a Disorder and a Illness were both the same in Mental Health..

Mental Health disorder is different to a personality disorder.

I was of the same opinion as you re. disorders and illnesses being the same in the field of mental health but the psychiatrist explained things in a very clear manner.

Thanks for sharing, Blur.
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# 49 : Tuesday 12-1-2010 @ 21:30
 
 
There is an unbelievable amount of misunderstanding among the general public about mental illness. Many people think it's an excuse for "bad behaviour" and others think people suffering conditions can just "snap out of it."

I'm suffering from chronic anxiety and I'm thankfully receiving treatment for this. I also know several people who suffer from, or have suffered from depression and bi-polar disorder.

They are very real illnesses and need care and support just like physical illnesses.
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# 50 : Tuesday 12-1-2010 @ 23:26
 
 
With regards to depression,Dr Ivor Browne,a man I have the highest regard for,and one who is in the same league as Dr Noel Brown,has said that to treat depression,you first have to find the cause,the trigger,throwing pills at a patient wont work without a psychoanalysis.
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# 51 : Tuesday 12-1-2010 @ 23:48
 
 
Someone said :
With regards to depression,Dr Ivor Browne,a man I have the highest regard for,and one who is in the same league as Dr Noel Brown,has said that to treat depression,you first have to find the cause,the trigger,throwing pills at a patient wont work without a psychoanalysis.

Indeed. And part of this is actually acknowledging the complexity of the subject, his or her ego and mind.
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# 52 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 00:43
 
 
Someone said :
My boyfriend is a schizophrenic; the perceptions people have of that condition are as frightening to me as anything else in the world. Thankfully there is the web where people can and SHOULD look up stuff they are unfamiliar with.

I have been asked to elaborate by marlbro...so here goes:
THe BIGGEST misconception by far is that schizophrenic means split/multiple personalities...it doesn't (people have made inapprppiate comments such as "so it's like having two BFs to fuck!" to me).
The second biggest and a close second at that, is that schizophrenics are violent and dangerous. Unless they were a violent person before the onset of the condition (in males usually starts in late teens, early twenties, females predominently in the early thirties; OF Course there are exceptions) they are usually not apt to hurt anyone, save themselves.
Myth number three: medications only control schizophrenics by "doping them up" e.g., anesthitizing them to the world/suppressing their moods. If on proper medication(s), a schizophrenic can lead a very ordinary life.
Thankfully the med that finally truly worked for my guy is a once every two week injectionable type that merely balances out his brain chemistry and allows him to not be plagued by paranoid thoughts that are crppling (people could read his thoughts, etc.) w/ no side effects (weight gain, lack of sex drive, numbness in extremities etc.). It's called Risperdol Consta. Other meds he was first on in his early twenties were of the above side effect producing type so he would go off them and end up committed to an institution within about a month or two.
I met him after he found the proper med. He is an artist, very caring, smart and sensitve, attractive. I call him a shining star for he is. The BIGGEST thing by far that helped him over the years since he was first afflicted w/ this condition is his family's un-ending support.
Persons w/ stable backgrounds and support tend to be the ones that can fully recover. Sadly the streets are filled w/ ones that fell through the cracks, or who's families gave up, or have passed on, etc. There are so many, it's beyond sad.
Jeff gave up his meds this summer, thought he could do it w/ support of me and his family alone (about 5% of shizophrenics CAN live w/out meds)...he lasted about seven months before being but a shadow of himself. There was always a part of him hanging on, trying to be normal, but his thoughts became nearly entirely disjointed and he was deemed a danger to himself, so he was committed again and put on court ordered meds and in hospital for 2 weeks. He was then deemed well enough to be out again. That is about as fast as is possble so I am hopeful he'll have a full life again soon (work etc.).
Well, being no writer, I apologize for the rambling nature of this. Any questions, feel free to ask.
Thanks, Marlbro for caring to write; it touched me.

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# 53 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 03:04
 
 
An interesting article in yesterday's New York Times about meds,

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/health/12mind.html
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# 54 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 04:54
 
 
Thank you bronco-289 for a very informative post.
I think you have managed to change some peoples/myown perseption on the life
of one living and experiencing schizophrinia. The message has now well been received
that those experiencing from this illness, given the proper surroundings and support
can and do live a quality life. This is obviously a case where medication is a necessaty
but one where it can have positive results.
The very best to you and jeff and many thanks once again for sharing this experience with us.
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# 55 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 15:40
 
 
Just a brief question.

The way physical illness can go away by itself, so can mental illnesses. Having said this... why is there so much insistence that treatment be given to people who feel somewhat unwell? (I mean, in the context of mental illnesses.)
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# 56 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 16:22
 
 
Someone said :
Just a brief question.

The way physical illness can go away by itself, so can mental illnesses. Having said this... why is there so much insistence that treatment be given to people who feel somewhat unwell? (I mean, in the context of mental illnesses.)

Why would we not treat it shoud be the real question trep.
If someone has cancer we would not refuse to treat it and hope that it will go away on its own. I dont know of any mental illness that goes away on its own, actually
if left untreated,I feel that a persons well been will only deteriate more.
If someone has a physical illness and is in pain,Treatment is necessary.
Some mental illness can bring a pain that would be far greater than any physical injury. With most if not all mental illness,there comes a time where the person experiencing difficulties is not capable of helping themselves. To improve that persons quality of life treatement MUST be administered. Mental difficulties, no matter how minor they may be should not be ignored.
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# 57 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 17:14
 
 
Mental health problems arent quite the same as a physical illness Intrepid. For starters, their syptoms are often extremely slight to begin with, meaning that it can go for a long period before they have developed into an identifiable problem. This makes it extremely difficult to diagnose. Often mental illnesses and disorders trigger from a genetic condition and arent necessarily brought out unless triggered by an event or illness.

Unlike many physical illnesses, mental illnesses can affect a persons thought person and rationale, often resulting in depression and anxiety. Tragically, this often leads to suicide. So yes, we could leave it to solve itself, but at the risk of a hugely increased suicide rate, I think it better that treatment be given, don't you??
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# 58 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 17:20
 
 
Someone said :
Just a brief question.

The way physical illness can go away by itself, so can mental illnesses. Having said this... why is there so much insistence that treatment be given to people who feel somewhat unwell? (I mean, in the context of mental illnesses.)

Do physical illnesses go away by themselves???? That's a rather dubious statement Intrepid.

Where physical illnesses do disappear its usually caused by bacteria or a virus, such as the common of the flu - and this is all dependent on the strength of the person's immune system.

Unfortunately, our mental health doesn't really have an immune system as such.
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# 59 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 17:31
 
 
Theres a rule of thirds when it comes to schizophrenia a third never recover, a third recover with intervention, a third recover without intervention.

I have had mental illness issues in the past, be it anxiety, insomnia, mild depression all went away with no intervention. I had a major depression and that went away with no medical treatments, but I trained for and did a sprint triathlon which certainly aided my mood. The mind does not have an immune system, so to speak, but its malleable it can recorrect itself and it can defend itself.
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# 60 : Wednesday 13-1-2010 @ 17:57
 
 
Someone said :
Theres a rule of thirds when it comes to schizophrenia a third never recover, a third recover with intervention, a third recover without intervention.


Is this hearsay or have you a link showing proof of these statistics. One third of those experiencing schizophrenia and recovering without any professional intervention
seems very high to me. I could be wrong but, I think we should stick to facts on this thread.
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