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419-er Eaters. How Good Would YOU Be?
 
# 1 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 00:09
 
 
419-ers are the scammers sending you email offering you huge amounts of money from a former dictator, and end up emptying your bank account.

419-eaters are dedicated to wasting their time, thus leaving them less time to deal with real victims.

Here is an example:
http://www.419eater.com
With a real life example of a scammer being scammed.
http://www.419eater.com/html/SkeletonCoast/safari7.html

Do you think it is fair to scam the scammers?
How far would you go?
What story would you make up?

Note: never ever attempt 419-eating if you are not 100% sure of what you are doing, and NEVER EVER give them real details that may identify you, or your real e-mail!
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# 2 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 00:19
 
 
Because I not 100% about it, I wouldn't do it, I would find their weakness, generally through their email, find out the country it was emailed from, and meet them face to face, this scam would be agreed to through email. agree to buy their company to protect them, make it solvent, and force them to buy the goods under their own name, (don't worry i would have a story for that) That they our importing into the country. Then leave them to pay the bill. What would you do? (Now their is a lot of assumitions there)
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# 3 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 10:29
 
 
Someone said :
[...]find out the country it was emailed from, and meet them face to face[...]

No, you wouldn't!
This would be the third most dangerous thing to do: some people went to the country and were abducted and killed...

419-eaters would indeed make the scammer waste time and money, but they would never expose their real own self. (No real phone, no real email, no real meeting, no real address, no real picture, but no fake ID either as they may use them against other victims).
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# 4 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 10:42
 
 
Well it was imagery. I wouldn't really have the huge resources to do it. What are the two most dangerous things to do, out of interest?
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# 5 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 10:57
 
 
Someone said :
Well it was imagery. I wouldn't really have the huge resources to do it. What are the two most dangerous things to do, out of interest?

Giving real personal or professional information.
Believing their stories.

When it comes to resources, have you had a look at the http://www.419eater.com/html/SkeletonCoast/safari7.html ?
The only resource you need is the only resource the scammers need: imagination.
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# 6 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 12:44
 
 
I thought I was back in 2007 there for a minute...
Someone said :
I know :-)

I emailed them with a fake email address, and copied the Yahoo fishing email address as they are using a yahoo email.

I will give them false information: I am thinking about using details that will lead them to some official in the Gardai or the London Met Police.

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# 7 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 12:51
 
 
But at the time only a few of us suggested ways to scam the scammers.

There has been a lot of water running under a lot of bridges since then, with new members and new trolls.
2 to 3 years is a long time.

So, GF, how would you scam scammers?
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# 8 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 13:50
 
 
Someone said :
So, GF, how would you scam scammers?

If you don't have more important things to do with your time than to waste it responding to scammers you are a lucky man.
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# 9 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 13:57
 
 
I fully support this new endeavour Blah - just say the word and I will send your email address into the deepest, darkest folds of cyberspace so that you may fully devote all your free time to this worthy cause and, of course, report back to us in 10 years.
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# 10 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 13:58
 
 
Someone said :
I fully support this new endeavour Blah - just say the word and I will send your email address into the deepest, darkest folds of cyberspace so that you may fully devote all your free time to this worthy cause and, of course, report back to us in 10 years.

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# 11 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 13:59
 
 
419-er eaters. Interesting topic .
I'd never heard of the '419-er eaters' description before .

Occasionally I do get a scam email or text . I respond by threatening to put a curse on them . Usually along the lines 'may you fry in hell for all eternity for your dishonest dealings ' .

Strangely this actually seems to work as I never hear from them again .
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# 12 : Sunday 17-1-2010 @ 15:06
 
 
Someone said :
If you don't have more important things to do with your time than to waste it responding to scammers you are a lucky man.

I never actually had to do it because my spam filter is so good that I never receive them.

But if I felt like doing some 419-eating, I can think on one or two ways to do it.
Thomas, I would obviously not be using my real email...

The whole point is that instead of telling them no, which saves them time, I would waste there time on my spare time. And make it drag.
And maybe in the end just say: sorry, the deal is off.

As a sport, 419-eaters may try to get funny pictures of the guys, in ridiculous positions, to prove their good faith.
Then they share the info on specialized forums.

There are some ethical issues attached: some people think that some of the offending party is actually entitled to try to scam people due to some view on colonial history, and that wasting their time is making a poor person more miserable.
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# 13 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 12:19
 
 
Before you go on with this, you should probably know a few things

1: It costs internet phishers approximately 500 US Dollars to send 5,000 mails.
2: Out of 5,000 mails, they will receive responses from around 40 people
3: All of their emails are templates that need to be adjusted slightly to fit the response they receive, so to answer 40 mails, it takes them approximately 20 minutes
4: Half of those will never reply again. The cycle will continue until they have success with between two and five respondees. The whole process, while possibly lasting weeks, will take them about an hour.
5:
The whole point is that instead of telling them no, which saves them time, I would waste there time on my spare time. And make it drag.
And maybe in the end just say: sorry, the deal is off.

Bearing in mind it takes them 30 seconds to respond to you, and based on your posting style,I imagine it would take you quite some time preparing your emails to them, highlighting sections in bold for no apparent reason, summarising your mail, and then summarising your summary. Who is the biggest loser (of time)?
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# 14 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 12:32
 
 
yeah I think Blah's emails would fry their wind-up OLPC laptops.
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# 15 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 12:44
 
 
Someone said :
Bearing in mind it takes them 30 seconds to respond to you, and based on your posting style,I imagine it would take you quite some time preparing your emails to them, highlighting sections in bold for no apparent reason, summarising your mail, and then summarising your summary. Who is the biggest loser (of time)?

Someone said :
yeah I think Blah's emails would fry their wind-up OLPC laptops.

Bitches

Its funny cos its true
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