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419-er Eaters. How Good Would YOU Be?
 
# 16 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 16:11
 
 
Someone said :
[...]Bearing in mind it takes them 30 seconds to respond to you, […] Who is the biggest loser (of time)?

Bearing in mind that your total lack of imagination is entertaining, the whole point is to make them take more than 30 second to process your case.

If you can make them believe that you are worth investing time in you (you need imagination to imagine it, and to do it, so don’t try to hard without practice), then you can waste their time.

You can set them up to think you are rich.
And then have some demands, and like they do, add hurdles along the way.
And you can have fun on the way, like getting funny pictures out of them (that is for the hardcore 419-er eaters.

And as Thomas and Loosey noticed, a bit of imagination goes a long way to fry someone’s mind.
An easy way is to ask them to repeat the instructions over and over, and every time play dum (that should be easier) and misunderstand one of the steps. And re-ask the same questions in different way, and ignore the answer to it in your next question, or down the line.
If you are credible as a rich business man, they will hold on to you for the same reasons their victims hold on to being scammed: hope in the face of obvious foolishness. The idea is to mess with them as much as one can, within ethical reason.
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# 17 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 16:16
 
 
I would not scam the scammers. I would simply ignore them. I wouldn't waste my time on them. In order to scam the scammers... you would have to have the motivation.

I went to an art gallery where an exhibit of this was shown, with printouts of the actual correspondence between the artist and the scammer the artist was scamming. I found it interesting and entertaining at first, but after a while, I asked myself the same thing you brought up... where do we draw the line?
Someone said :
The idea is to mess with them as much as one can, within ethical reason.

Ethics is largely subjective...
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# 18 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 16:21
 
 
Someone said :
I would not scam the scammers. I would simply ignore them. I wouldn't waste my time on them.

That would be my feeling too.
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# 19 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 16:27
 
 
Looking at those emails, I think I wouldnt have the patience for something like that, its all just far too boring. Much easier to delete and be done with it.
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# 20 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 17:07
 
 
Someone said :
[...]. where do we draw the line?

Ethics is largely subjective...

And it is a good thing: ethics is about subjects, as oppose to morales which is about post-justifications.

That is why there are forums of 419-eaters. To draw the line.

A simple line is that you should not yourself commit an offense or crime, or lead them to commit an actual offense or crime.

Another simple rule is to not encourage them to engage other people in the plot: the third party did not contact you. The story I gave a link to is crossing that line, but I suspect it is widely imaginary.

Some 419-er claim they got money out the scammers: that would make them 419-ers themselves.

The fact that the line is negotiable, like all lines, only means that it can be discussed, and that we can only know when it is crossed if it is defined and discussed! Not drawing the line will not stop you from crossing it! The funny twist is that 419-ers contacts former victims of theirs, or of other 419-ers, claiming that they are 419-eaters, and that they can recoup their loss... for a fee! And some people fall for it!
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# 21 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 17:13
 
 
Good luck to them if they used my bank account there is zilch in it at the moment. Scammers what a bunch of bastards!
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# 22 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 17:21
 
 
Someone said :
Good luck to them if they used my bank account there is zilch in it at the moment. Scammers what a bunch of bastards!

They actually have no interest in getting your bank account details, for the sake of emptying your account.
What they are after is an untraceable payment from you, like a Western Union transfer.
You do not have the money: they will try to talk you into borrowing.

They ask for your bank details for two reasons:
- Check how gullible you are.
- Use them to make the next documents official looking... given that they will have your bank details! In order for you to feel these documents are official.

Then it is easier to get you to pay an advance fee of say €500, and then more fees for various reasons.
The more you have invested in the idea, the more you will think it just cannot be a scam... after all... what if...
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# 23 : Monday 18-1-2010 @ 17:24
 
 
Long day Blah! lol I need sleep
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# 24 : Saturday 30-12-2017 @ 07:40
 
 
Sleepless night, so I went through my spam folder and responded to a number of them, with emails that will redirect to law enforcement dealing with cyber criminality reporting.

I'll see if I can enjoy some winding up for the next few days before resuming work.
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# 25 : Monday 1-1-2018 @ 00:17
 
 
Someone said :
Sleepless night, so I went through my spam folder and responded to a number of them, with emails that will redirect to law enforcement dealing with cyber criminality reporting.

I'll see if I can enjoy some winding up for the next few days before resuming work.

I would love too have the computer skills required too scam them back.. Acid & ecstasy, sadly, took up most of my formative years. Didn't leave a lot of time for Computer sciences
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