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# 1 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 19:04
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Gay-Couple-Face-Jail- etc ...

Don't know if this link will work...not very techie.

This story has me so f**king mad. My heart goes out to the two men in question, not only are they facing criminal charges but they are publicly humiliated by jeering crowds. This treatment goes against the UN Convention of Human Rights.

I have been contacting my local representatives about the upcoming Civil Partnership Bill and getting the well rehearsed replies...'this is a stage in a process' and 'our conservative voters won't accept gay marriage'.

I'm going to forward this link to them and tell them that by not granting equal rights in Ireland they are telling African governments that it is alright to treat LGBT communities differently. My taxes probably support most of these countries and funding should be withdrawn from any country that does not decriminalise homosexuality.
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# 2 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 19:12
thats a feckin digrace in this day and age. that phrase 'such a risk to society' - jesus what are they liable to do - ride every male in malawi so fuckin maddenin that this can still happen.
# 3 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 19:41
My heart goes out to these poor men.
# 4 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 20:05
Well this article really got my blood boiling so I wrote to both the Office of An Taoiseach and Fine Gael to raise this issue. I'll keep you informed of their response.
# 5 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 20:09
Is there anything in the UN charter of human rights about what you go to prison for?
# 6 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 20:19
dont think so, they did get a lot of hassle from different countries after that but are apparently standing firm on their ruling

http://www.gcn.ie/Malawi_Government_Defends_Prosecution_of_Gay_Co etc ...

my personal sentiments about this story:
# 7 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 20:23
Hi Column,

No but the Charter does outline how prisoners should be treated and these men are being denied prisoners rights as well as human rights.

Article 9.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10.

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 12.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

To name just three, there are many rights being denied to these men and to LGBT people in many countries.
# 8 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 21:42
This was in the Sunday Times last week (17th Jan 2010).
It is shocking, really - imagine any of our circumstances being different, to living in counties where such bigoted persecution exists. Ireland may not be the most forward thinking or acting country but this is beyond all levels of wrong in comparison.
# 9 : Monday 25-1-2010 @ 23:29
I know that Amnesty International have set up an LGBT working group and they are doing work on this and uganda

Might be worth contacting them lgbtireland@amnesty.ie.
# 10 : Tuesday 2-2-2010 @ 14:09
This is the suggested letter that AI are asking people to send
Send to Taoiseach and/or Minister for Foreign Affairs - simply informs them that people care about the issue, copy and amend, then email or post.

An Taoiseach Brian Cowen, TD
Department of the Taoiseach,
Government Buildings,
Upper Merrion Street,
Dublin 2

Minister Micheal Martin, TD
Department of Foreign Affairs
St Stephen’s Green
Dublin 2

Dear Taoiseach/ Minister

I am writing to you to express my outrage at the proposed anti-homosexuality legislation currently before the Ugandan parliament. The ‘Anti-Homosexuality’ Bill was introduced in Parliament last October and may be voted on as soon as the end of January.

The draft bill includes a provision that could lead to the imprisonment for up to three years of anyone, including heterosexual people, who fails to report within 24 hours the identities of everyone they know who is lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (LGBT), or who supports human rights for people who are LGBT.

Paragraph 3 of the draft bill sets out provisions on what it names as "aggravated homosexuality," which will incur the death penalty, contradicting the global trend toward a moratorium on the use of the death penalty.

The final section of the bill provides for Uganda to nullify any of its international or regional commitments that it deems "contradictory to the spirit and provisions enshrined in this Act." It is clear that the supporters of the Bill themselves see it as contravening international human rights law and as both the African Commission and the UN Human Rights Committee have held, a state cannot, through its domestic law, negate its international human rights obligations.

There has been widespread revulsion in the international community at these proposals and world leaders including the Prime Ministers of Canada and the UK, along with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have publicly condemned the legislation. I urge you to make a similar public statement expressing Ireland’s opposition to any anti-homosexuality legislation in Uganda.

Furthermore, in 2008 Ireland provided €41.8 million in bilateral aid to Malawi including €10 million for HIV/AIDS programmes. Discriminatory and punitive laws like this target marginalised groups disproportionately affected by HIV/AIDS. Irish Aid must also therefore state its intention to review all funding to Uganda in light of any developments that contradict the expressed intentions of our foreign policy.

The anti-homosexuality legislation currently before the Ugandan parliament is among the most egregious affronts to human rights of recent times and would endanger the wider development of human rights in the region.

I urge you to act on the requests in this letter as a matter of urgency.

Kind Regards

# 11 : Tuesday 2-2-2010 @ 14:12
anyone knows an e--maila ddress?
# 12 : Tuesday 2-2-2010 @ 14:22
taoiseach@taoiseach.gov.ie, micheal.martin@oireachtas.ie, peter.power@oireachtas.ie
# 13 : Tuesday 2-2-2010 @ 14:34
danke schoen!
# 14 : Tuesday 2-2-2010 @ 14:54
While gay rights in Uganda are under threat, we also have someone closer to home
trying to take away our rights.
This pompous asshole wants to interfere in the UK equality bill.
The Times 02/02/10.
The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Westminster today attempted to defuse a row that threatens to overshadow the Pope's forthcoming visit to Britain by claiming that Benedict XVI was merely giving voice to what many people felt when he attacked this country's record of promoting equal rights for gays.

Surprise at the Pope's remarks was giving way today to more determined opposition to his views, with the National Secular Society vowing to set up a Protest the Pope campaign to hold demonstrations during Benedict's visit this year.

Aware of the growing controversy, the Most Rev Vincent Nichols, in Rome leading the 34 other bishops of England and Wales on an ad limina, or five-yearly visit to see the Pope, said that Benedict XVI was only saying publicly what many devout people believed.

"I think [the Pope's] words will find an echo in many in our country who are uneasy that perhaps one of the unintended consequences of recent legislation is to drive religious belief and practice into the sphere of the private only," the Archbishop said.

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He was speaking out after the Pope said that recent legislation in Britain ran counter to natural law, and imposed unjust limitations on the freedom of religious communities to act in accordance with their beliefs.

The Pope's remarks were intended as criticism of the Equality Bill, which is going through Parliament, and of the Sexual Orientation Regulations, which require Catholic adoption agencies to consider gay couples as potential adoptive parents.

The Equality Bill will forbid the church from discriminating against gay applicants for secular jobs.

Archbishop Nichols, regarded as spiritual leader of the five million Catholics in England and Wales, told the Today programme on BBC Radio 4 that the Pope had a right to express his views, which he denied were party political.

"The way in which our public life is organised is something to which everybody has a right to contribute," the Archbishop said.

"He is certainly not getting involved in party politics... but he wants his reasoned voice – formed by the treasures of the Christian heritage which is deeply embedded in our culture – he wants that voice to be heard.

"It is a reasoned voice, and I think he has every right to express the concerns of many," the Archbishop added.

Even though they had discussed such issues with him during their visit, the strength of the Pope's remarks caught the English and Welsh bishops by surprise – just as his offer of an Anglican Ordinariate to welcome to Rome disaffected members of the High Church wing of the Church of England did late last year.

The latter led to the Queen sending an emissary, Earl Peel, her Lord Chamberlain, to talk to the Archbishop Nichols and find out exactly what was intended by the "conversion" plans.

Archbishop Nichols is the most politically astute Catholic bishop for generations, but all his considerable skills are being put to the test by the unpredictability of the Pope.

The Archbishop’s conservative leanings are in sympathy with those of Benedict XVI, but he needs to remain on good terms with the leaders of Britain's established Church and its Supreme Governor, the Queen.

His attempts to defuse a political row are unlikely to succeed for long, given that the bishops themselves are shortly to issue their own pre-election document, which will build on more than a century of Catholic "social thought" to reiterate many of the points made by the Pope.

Catholic unease at the Government's Equality Bill is shared by the Church of England, whose bishops have helped to inflict defeats on the proposed law as it passed through the House of Lords.

Secularists are already planning a series of marches against the Pope wherever he goes when he visits Britain in September.

The National Secular Society today threatened to bring together gay groups, victims of clerical abuse, feminists, family planning organisations and pro-abortion groups in a new group, the Protest the Pope Coalition, to be launched later this week.

“The taxpayer in this country is going to be faced with a bill of some £20 million for the visit of the Pope, a visit in which, he has already indicated, he will attack equal rights and promote discrimination," said Terry Sanderson, the society's president.

“We have a petition online where people can make clear their opposition to the state funding of this visit.”

Peter Tatchell, the human rights campaigner, was also among those planning online petitions against the visit. "[The Pope] seems to be defending discrimination by religious institutions and demanding that they should be above the law," Mr Tatchell said
# 15 : Tuesday 2-2-2010 @ 14:56
Cunting bastard son of a whore!

Promoting prejudice and disguising it as religious freedom! Asshole!

And meanwhile, Ugandan gay people are under threat of death and does he speak up? No.

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