Quick Links : Classifeds | Profiles | Message Boards | Register
 
View Topic
  Message Boards : General Discussion : View Topic : 228 Posts, Page 1 of 16
  HomeNewNoticesHot TopicsPollsStatsBlogs Login / Register
 
Rise Of The Dreaded Internship
 
# 1 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 14:16
 
 
Huzzah! After two years of pay bearing less and less resemblance to the cost of living in this country I'm happy to report that the days of having to slave away for a pittance are over. Ireland's employers and government have gallantly rode to the rescue and decided that once and for all low pay is to be a thing of the past and is compelling vast numbers of citizens to work for nothing. The alternative option - introduction of rent controls, reducing taxes and stimulating the domestic economy - was too horrible to contemplate and would have left our multiple propertied classes and public servants in the lurch and we couldn't be having that now could we?

What we've got instead is the unstoppable march to glory of the dreaded internship. This involves working for nothing or (if you're lucky) the rock and roll in a for-profit business. This is self-defeating on two points. Firstly it completely undermines people who are doing this job already for a salary. Secondly many of the internships aren't even offering experience anymore. Moany Joany Burton has offered business 5,000 free workers from the ranks of the unemployed and sneakingly masking it is an "employment initiative". What a crock of shit. It's allowing the government to massage the unemployment figures.

Thousand strong armies of people working for nothing? Doesn't sound very socialist to me. National socialist perhaps. Anyhow the department aren't the only ones in on the actions. Check out this advert on gumtree (thanks to broadsheet.ie for bringing it to my attention)...



Now this is really taking the piss. Tragically I can't locate the original ad as I'd hoped to contact this chap and design the worst damned website the world had ever seen for him. More and more jobs I see advertised that would have carried a livable if not spectacular wage a few years ago are coming with the tagline "this is not a salaried position". I believe that only in very rare circumstances where you are getting genuine experience that will be of verifiable use to you in the immediate future should you consider working for nothing. And to be fair some of the advertised internships do provide this but the majority don't look like they do.

So what's the deal? Is working for nothing the new black? Would you do it?

Link to the Breaking News story:

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/5000-internship-places-to-be-a etc ...
Reply
 
 Recent Message Board Topics
Non Random Thoughts..
Catfish? Catfish My Ass!
Covid-19 : Will You Get Tested?
Internet Memes
Count Your Blessings
Boris: Unraveling Or Thatchering?
What To Do During These Difficult Times?
Catfish: Have You Been Duped?
 
Hey! If you enjoy shooting the breeze with like-minded people, check out
our Message Boards
• Advice • Coming Out
• Computers • Current Affairs
• Discussion • Food & Drink
• Going Out • Humour
• Health • Music
• Newbies • Sexual Issues
# 2 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 14:58
 
 
Well it certainly solves the unemployment problem at the stroke of a pen - but watch out for companies sacking their workers and taking them back on for nothing
Reply
 
# 3 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 15:23
 
 
I am doing it but I don't see any other choice, I just can't get a job that will pay me.
Reply
 
# 4 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 15:24
 
 
Oh and check this beauty out.

http://yfrog.com/kf8tnyj
Reply
 
# 5 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 15:48
 
 
my friend in cork did it for 8 months and they took him on full time then. he went to them and asked if they would allow him to work for free to learn the ropes and they agreed. he felt better to be getting the dole and doing somethin towards getting into a company - then just sitting back and having cv rejection letters coming his way.
paid off in this case so he was lucky.
Reply
 
# 6 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 16:16
 
 
If you are going to get a job out of it then its great but I am two months into mine and there is no way they will keep me on once my nine months are up, they just don't have the resources. So I am left wondering whats the point really?
Reply
 
# 7 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 16:47
 
 
Well it certainly solves the unemployment problem at the stroke of a pen - but watch out for companies sacking their workers and taking them back on for nothing [Lol]

Already happened. Read about a case over on boards.ie where the HR person was shown the door only to be taken back on a few months later for nothing but a satisfaction f a job well done.
Reply
 
# 8 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 18:06
 
 
Someone said :
Oh and check this beauty out.

http://yfrog.com/kf8tnyj

That's shocking. And not only is that blatant exploitation it's being encouraged and facilitated by Ireland's socialist party!
Reply
 
# 9 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 18:14
 
 
Someone said :
Oh and check this beauty out.

http://yfrog.com/kf8tnyj

If a business can't afford to have its toilets serviced then they should not be in business
Reply
 
# 10 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 18:17
 
 
While I think it has the risk of exploiting people, there are situations where it can benefit employer and employee/intern.

Someone out of work might be glad spending their days in a working environment and also put a bit of experience on their CV. Some companies have had to cut staff to survive but may need some extra help in certain areas.

Of course, it's the employers who are expoliting the situation which causes problems.
Reply
 
# 11 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 18:22
 
 
Someone said :

If a business can't afford to have its toilets serviced then they should not be in business

That kind of shit should be illegal. Except possibly during wartime. How much experience can you get cleaning up the toilets?!? If I landed that little number I would make it my life's ambition to bring hitherto unprecedented levels of incompetence to the role.
Reply
 
# 12 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 18:34
 
 
Someone said :
While I think it has the risk of exploiting people, there are situations where it can benefit employer and employee/intern.

Someone out of work might be glad spending their days in a working environment and also put a bit of experience on their CV. Some companies have had to cut staff to survive but may need some extra help in certain areas.

Of course, it's the employers who are expoliting the situation which causes problems.

Getting someone to go around cleaning toilets which you will then charge customers for and pay them nothing in return is reprehensible. That is really, really awful. It's the dictionary definition of exploitation.
Reply
 
# 13 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 18:47
 
 
Someone said :

Getting someone to go around cleaning toilets which you will then charge customers for and pay them nothing in return is reprehensible. That is really, really awful. It's the dictionary definition of exploitation.

Guess you could always slip on the toilet floor and sue the company for a bundle of dosh - that might put paid to their exploitation
Reply
 
# 14 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 19:33
 
 
The advert has an email address on it, not saying for any particular reason.
Reply
 
# 15 : Thursday 30-6-2011 @ 19:34
 
 
There is strict terms that each company has to ad hear to as well, albeit it is slave labour but it is replacing the WPP (work placement program) This was set-up to help people who don't have work experience to enable them to gain this experience, most companies who took people on kept the in employment however there where other companies that took advantage of it and im afraid to say that this might happen here as well only time will tell. One of the conditions is that they must have at least one employee in the company and have a vacancy that they need filled in the hope that the person they take on could potentially gain full time employment with said company. Again only time will tell.
Reply
 
Prev 123456789101112131415NextLast