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Should Those Accused Of Rape Be Named & Shamed?
 
# 46 : Monday 23-1-2012 @ 20:41
 
 
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# 47 : Monday 30-1-2012 @ 21:59
 
 
You cannot name if the person has not been convicted.
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# 48 : Sunday 15-4-2012 @ 15:31
 
 
read this article today and it reminded me of this thread....its just an interesting counterpoint to the issues surrounding how false allegations of rape are not only deeply immoral and devestating to the falsey accused party and their family but also they have a massive undermining effect on real and valid rape cases,both in making real victims less likely to come forward and also less likely to be believed

In this particular article it happened to be a transsexual who had made her 19th rape claim in 10 years ...again the fact it was a trans woman is why it got a sensational airing in this rag, however it further shows how already vulnerable demographics can become even more so due to people possibly crying wolf....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129997/Transsexual-makes etc ...
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# 49 : Sunday 15-4-2012 @ 19:26
 
 
hes right
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# 50 : Sunday 15-4-2012 @ 19:52
 
 
yes they should
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# 51 : Sunday 15-4-2012 @ 20:03
 
 
Someone said :
yes they should

And if they end up being innocent?
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# 52 : Sunday 15-4-2012 @ 20:04
 
 
Thats wat always worry me is those kinda cases
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# 53 : Sunday 15-4-2012 @ 20:06
 
 
No, those who are accused should not be named, but those ho are convicted should go in a better register than we have now. The gardai don't even have photographs of those on the sex offenders list in Ireland, that list is a shambles.
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# 54 : Sunday 17-11-2013 @ 15:26
 
 
i think identity of accused should be protected until proven guilty, those that cry rape making it up and ruining a persons life should definitely be named and shamed
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# 55 : Sunday 17-11-2013 @ 16:56
 
 
Someone said :
No, those who are accused should not be named, but those ho are convicted should go in a better register than we have now. The gardai don't even have photographs of those on the sex offenders list in Ireland, that list is a shambles.

.....There is no sharing of information between the PSNI and Guards so a lot of offenders move around Ireland freely..

Was involved in a case recently..I was shocked at the level of inepitude by the relevant authorities and I wish now that I was not able to walk away from the whole mess...
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# 56 : Friday 2-2-2018 @ 13:59
 
 
Anyone following the trial in Belfast?
People have very strong feelings about it. I feel there is a conflation of moral judgement with legal judgement. Although the boys were clearly behaving badly, a crazy vigorous sex life isn't a crime, but one where one party hasn't given clearly permission is. One side is lying, and its hard to call. If the wrong call is made, one side will be unfairly destroyed.
What I find outrageous is the 9 men, 3 women on the jury. How the hell was that allowed.
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# 57 : Friday 2-2-2018 @ 14:56
 
 
Someone said :
Anyone following the trial in Belfast?
People have very strong feelings about it. I feel there is a conflation of moral judgement withb legal judgement. Although the boys were clearly behaving badly, a crazy vigorous sex life isn't a crime, but one where one party hasn't given clearly permission is. One side is lying, and its hard to call. If the wrong call is made, one side will be unfairly destroyed.
What I find outrageous is the 9 men, 3 women on the jury. How the hell was that allowed.

Yes, I have read abcut this case and if the mobile phone text messages are true, and it seems that they may well be, then the case against those Ulster rugby players is damning. The most disgusting aspect of this case is that a number of major Ireland rugby international players have intervened in their defence. Stupid and unwise move if those guys are found guilty.

Link:
http://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0202/937850-rape/

The gender composition of the the jury is not as much of a an issue as you might think. I served on the jury for a rape trial nearly 20 years ago and it was the male jurors who were more convinced of the defendant's guilt (he was acquitted).



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# 58 : Friday 2-2-2018 @ 17:08
 
 
I think it's very poor judgement of Rory Best and rest of Ulster players to go to the trial in support of Jackson etc.

Regardless of the outcome of the trial, by publicly showing his support for the 4 accused we have the captain of the Irish rugby team saying that their behaviour is acceptable.
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# 59 : Friday 2-2-2018 @ 18:55
 
 
Someone said :
Yes, I have read abcut this case and if the mobile phone text messages are true, and it seems that they may well be, then the case against those Ulster rugby players is damning. The most disgusting aspect of this case is that a number of major Ireland rugby international players have intervened in their defence. Stupid and unwise move if those guys are found guilty.

Well I don't think they've denied having sex so the texts don't really prove much outside of the fact that they're misogynistic prats.

It's unbelievably distasteful the players' support but rugby is loved here.... if he's convicted they'll act appropriately surprised and won't be criticized beyond a single one column critique in the Irish Times.
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# 60 : Friday 2-2-2018 @ 19:53
 
 
To answer the original question, the alleged victim has a duty to do all s/he can to expose the alleged perpetrator: if you know you have been raped but someone is protected or too much time has elapsed, then by all means expose her or him.

But for us who are not involved, we have to respect the presomption of innocence, and so should the media.

Simple.
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