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Irish Water - New State Body
 
# 1 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 20:28
 
 
Minister for the Environment Phil Hogan has announced the establishment of Irish Water - it will be a subsidiary of Bord Gáis.

Mr Hogan told Cabinet that the current system was unsustainable and the new structure would "create jobs, stop leaks and ensure compliance with public health standards."

He said work on installing the meters will begin in October, but said apartment blocks were a problem and would not be metered immediately.

Mr Hogan predicted that by the time billing commenced in 2014, up to 95% of households would be metered with the remainder being assessed for payment.

Households would not be asked to pay for meters with an upfront charge and the programme of metering and charges will only apply to households connected to a public water supply.

Mr Hogan said the programme was being financed by a loan from the National Pension Reserve Fund on commercial terms.

He said the average annual repayment, at around €40 per year, would be levied as a standing charge in the same way as other utilities.

The minister said meters would have to be replaced every seven years or so but the cost of that would be borne by Irish Water.

Mr Hogan told a press briefing that he was bringing clarity to the situation following confusion at the weekend over the scheme, saying he could not be responsible for what appeared in newspapers.

He said the decision to set up Irish Water was one of the biggest taken by any government since the establishment of the ESB.

Sinn Féin President Gerry Adams has described "confusion" on the introduction of water charges as another "debacle" over a "stealth tax".

Speaking outside Leinster House today, the TD for Louth said it appeared one side of Government was dictating how they would be introduced.

He said Sinn Féin was against their introduction, that struggling families could not afford them and that it could be the final "straw" for the public.

Deputy Adams also attacked a decision by the Troika not to meet Opposition parties while in Dublin for their latest review of Ireland's bailout.

He said this was "undemocratic" and a "disrespectful" step.

The Troika are currently in the Department of Finance meeting officials.
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# 2 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 20:37
 
 
This from a minister in a party that wants to reduce the number of quangos.
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# 3 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 20:50
 
 
Someone said :

He said the average annual repayment, at around €40 per year, would be levied as a standing charge in the same way as other utilities.

I could understand insofar as it would reduce water wastage a tax on water consumption, or water rates but a repayment ???
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# 4 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 20:51
 
 
Yeah, why couldn't the NRA do it? More bloody Quangoes, bunch of liars!
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# 5 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 21:27
 
 
Someone said :

I could understand insofar as it would reduce water wastage a tax on water consumption, or water rates but a repayment ???

I was listening to the radio this morning and someone on from Sligo was saying that they already have water meters installed. I wonder how they will differentiate between the people who have to pay for twenty years and those who don't.
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# 6 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 21:47
 
 
It doesn't matter everyone will have to pay regardless of whether or not they have a meter. Plus the meter system will be standardised so those with one already can't use it.
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# 7 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 21:53
 
 
Just so you know what's coming next.
After you start paying for your metered water,
they then have a formula to charge for the sewage you generate.
The sewage charge is based on your water consumption.
X amount in, X+Y amount out.
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# 8 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 21:57
 
 
Someone said :
Just so you know what's coming next.
After you start paying for your metered water,
they then have a formula to charge for the sewage you generate.
The sewage charge is based on your water consumption.
X amount in, X+Y amount out.

Do you get charged for that?
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# 9 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 21:58
 
 
oh yeah
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# 10 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 21:59
 
 
There is a huge waste of water. I don't think it's terrible that it's being introduced. People will hopefully be more careful.
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# 11 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 22:00
 
 
charged for water
sewage
trash collection
street lighting
street cleaning
it goes on and on
it comes as a single bill, but they are very nice and break it down for you.
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# 12 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 22:24
 
 
Someone said :
charged for water
sewage
trash collection
street lighting
street cleaning
it goes on and on
it comes as a single bill, but they are very nice and break it down for you.

After all that, what's peoples income tax and vat paying for and there'll be a federal tax next!
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# 13 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 22:27
 
 
Someone said :
charged for water
sewage
trash collection
street lighting
street cleaning
it goes on and on
it comes as a single bill, but they are very nice and break it down for you.

Would all those serviced and ran by private contractors?
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# 14 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 22:30
 
 
all are run by the city

some city's do use contractors, but usually smaller cities that couldn't afford to do it themselves.
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# 15 : Tuesday 17-4-2012 @ 22:44
 
 
I agree that we should be paying for our water supply. We have gotten off the hook very easy as opposed to other countries . Of course our politicians never had the backbone to introduce such measures as they risked falling out of popularity.
The shit has hit the fan and now we are left with no choice but to embrace such programmes.
I'm not sure if Hogan is the person who the govt should have selling this process. He made a haims of the introduction of the Household Contributions and i don't have faith in him,nor do i think the public will support any initiative that he has his name on.

I would have liked to see this process been privatised. Give someone a 5 year contract with penalty clauses for no fulfillment of duties. This does not belong in any govt body.

I live in an appartment, Due to my lifestyle i actually use very little water
Daily shower, toilets, coffee.
They are talking about a set charge for apartments, I would rather have my supply on a meter where i only have to pay for actual usage.
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