Excellent, you each sort of answered a different aspect of what I was looking for. Thanks guys.
No pain no gain refers to the effort involved, it does not relate in any way to the pain you feel as a result of improper work out or overload.
could you define as precisely as you can, what you mean by overload. i.e., how would one know one has overloaded.
also, tbh, I'm not really an eagar starter, It's more nosiness, and I need to make sure I'm not doing something stupid while I think I'm looking after myself. Sunday Morning after the Saturday I felt like I had been covered in rocks which were keeping my arms from reaching the alarm and my legs from letting me sit up, and for the next day or two I had to sort of "plop" down in chairs because my legs and arm would give way rather then do their usual faithful job.