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# 16 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 18:39
 
 
I think shocking adds are required
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# 17 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 18:40
 
 
Someone said :
Ah he was blocked immediately for it.

And the other guy's excuse is "sure most of it is treatable". He's been diagnosed with stuff before but thinks "sure you can just get an administered anti-biotic, it's no big deal". Doesn't realise at all his health is his wealth.

Jesus.....scary the way people behave and begin with that mindset.
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# 18 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 18:58
 
 
Pictures of scabby willies should scare them!
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# 19 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 20:13
 
 
Someone said :
I think shocking adds are required

But the FACT is:
30 years ago, getting HIV was a horrible death sentence with 90-95% probability.
Nowadays it simply isn't.
So, do you propose telling lies in these shocking ads?
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# 20 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 20:31
 
 
If having something that you are required to take medicine for rest of life to keep alive is not serious what is.....
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# 21 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 20:35
 
 
Someone said :

But the FACT is:
30 years ago, getting HIV was a horrible death sentence with 90-95% probability.
Nowadays it simply isn't.
So, do you propose telling lies in these shocking ads?

No - but showing people that being on meds can drastically affect your quality of life, showing people the daily realities of being HIV+ and living with it and the shocking ignorance and stigma that HIV+ positive people put p with
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# 22 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 21:51
 
 
Someone said :
there doesn't seem to be anything nowadays, only thing I notice is the odd notice in GCN

It gets a full page in every issue of GCN, not just the odd notice.
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# 23 : Saturday 16-2-2013 @ 21:52
 
 
Someone said :

No - but showing people that being on meds can drastically affect your quality of life, showing people the daily realities of being HIV+ and living with it and the shocking ignorance and stigma that HIV+ positive people put p with

Well, I'm all in favour of telling the full truth of exactly what it is like to have HIV today.
It should be told with 100% honesty. If you lie to the people, they will never trust you again. And what reason is there to lie if the effects aren't too bad (apart, of course, from the the financial costs of the medication to the taxpayer)?

If a large percentage of people have no effect on their lives apart from having to take the medication then that should be told.
If 50% of people have side effects from the medication then that should be described honestly.
If 10% of people have side effects from the medication then that should be described honestly.
I don't think a message about the stigma is going to have much effect.
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# 24 : Sunday 17-2-2013 @ 00:36
 
 
Someone said :
And what reason is there to lie if the effects aren't too bad

who said the effects aren't too bad?

why should we ignore stigma?
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# 25 : Sunday 17-2-2013 @ 00:44
 
 
Someone said :

Well, I'm all in favour of telling the full truth of exactly what it is like to have HIV today.
It should be told with 100% honesty. If you lie to the people, they will never trust you again. And what reason is there to lie if the effects aren't too bad (apart, of course, from the the financial costs of the medication to the taxpayer)?

If a large percentage of people have no effect on their lives apart from having to take the medication then that should be told.
If 50% of people have side effects from the medication then that should be described honestly.
If 10% of people have side effects from the medication then that should be described honestly.
I don't think a message about the stigma is going to have much effect.

You see its this naive and frankly in my opinion blasé attitude that allows an entirely preventable disease to go on and infect more and more people.
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# 26 : Sunday 17-2-2013 @ 00:47
 
 
People still die from it, even the ones on meds with the best medical care.
I heard of two people last week who I knew slightly (bartenders) that both died in the same week.
Tony was in his 50s and had had it for about 20 years,
Fred was 32 when he died. He got it about 6 years ago.

So yes, meds can help prevent an early death. Sometimes.
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# 27 : Sunday 17-2-2013 @ 01:34
 
 
Someone said :

who said the effects aren't too bad?

why should we ignore stigma?

bingo. Go onto Grindr in London and you'll see profiles with HIV+ on them. Why would that exist if HIV was a minor disease without stigma.
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# 28 : Sunday 17-2-2013 @ 02:54
 
 
Someone said :

who said the effects aren't too bad?

Not me. I merely asked the question.

Someone said :
why should we ignore stigma?

I think if people hear "Wear a condom or else you might have to cope with the social stigma of having HIV" - it's not going to get through to them.
I realise a stigma exists.
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# 29 : Sunday 17-2-2013 @ 02:56
 
 
Someone said :

You see its this naive and frankly in my opinion blasé attitude that allows an entirely preventable disease to go on and infect more and more people.

I am asking for 100% HONEST reporting of the statistics.
How the fuck is that blasé or naive?
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# 30 : Sunday 17-2-2013 @ 02:59
 
 
Someone said :
People still die from it, even the ones on meds with the best medical care.
I heard of two people last week who I knew slightly (bartenders) that both died in the same week.
Tony was in his 50s and had had it for about 20 years,
Fred was 32 when he died. He got it about 6 years ago.

So yes, meds can help prevent an early death. Sometimes.

As part of HONEST reporting of the facts in "shocking" ads, these should be included in the figures if AIDS was the cause of death.
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