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Who'd Be Self Employed
 
# 1 : Thursday 1-8-2013 @ 21:43
 
 
This is really just a rant. I'm self employed, I took my first day off in weeks this week and I returned to a letter from a former employee who is suing me for defamation. Last weekend I got threatened for asking someone to join a queue, the previous week I got an arsey customer who felt I should step out of my meeting with an inspector to get her a cup and saucer.

I get no wages, no holiday not even a portion of the tips and for this my day starts at 6/7am and finishes around 6/7pm ... What's the bloody point ....
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# 2 : Thursday 1-8-2013 @ 21:47
 
 
Sounds like your in a tough position DublinC, however I'd wonder is it being self employed or the line of work your currently in - being self employed can be liberating for some and filled with possibilities.

Whats happening now doesnt seem to be working for you - maybe you can change the focus of your company etc?
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# 3 : Thursday 1-8-2013 @ 21:47
 
 
Sounds like a thankless task,and you probably wouldn't get any social welfare if you folded tomorrow,you have my sympathies.
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# 4 : Thursday 1-8-2013 @ 21:57
 
 
Someone said :
Sounds like your in a tough position DublinC, however I'd wonder is it being self employed or the line of work your currently in - being self employed can be liberating for some and filled with possibilities.

Whats happening now doesnt seem to be working for you - maybe you can change the focus of your company etc?

I think it's just been a bad week tbh but it's just so hard to work so hard to keep people employed and try to get by week to week and just take abuse

I'm aware I'm ranting and rambling and do apologise I really just need to chat a bit and feel some sympathy
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# 5 : Thursday 1-8-2013 @ 22:01
 
 
The chef Nevin was saying on the radio that it is a real struggle to break even in the catering trade and you would need to have a full house most nights to make a profit.
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# 6 : Thursday 1-8-2013 @ 22:25
 
 
I agree its pretty tough sometimes - there's no guaranteed income or annual pay rises, etc.

It must be extra hard to pay other peoples wages too - that's a whole other level of stress.

But take it easy on yourself. It sounds like you have a far better work ethic than myself maybe you could look into reducing hours for the staff seeing as you seem to be doing a lot of the work already.
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# 7 : Thursday 1-8-2013 @ 22:40
 
 
Someone said :
I agree its pretty tough sometimes - there's no guaranteed income or annual pay rises, etc.

It must be extra hard to pay other peoples wages too - that's a whole other level of stress.

But take it easy on yourself. It sounds like you have a far better work ethic than myself maybe you could look into reducing hours for the staff seeing as you seem to be doing a lot of the work already.

Reduce hours? More would sue me ....
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# 8 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 00:35
 
 
I was looking at a program earlier that was about a struggling hotelier who owed 2 million to the banks.
It's tough out there at the moment.
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# 9 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 09:22
 
 
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I get no wages, no holiday not even a portion of the tips and for this my day starts at 6/7am and finishes around 6/7pm ... What's the bloody point ....

As a fellow self employed you have my deepest sympathies. I have had no holiday for twenty years now, have seen my turnover reduced by over 50% over the last five years, everyone thinks they can screw you on price "because of the recession" and those hours of the day when you are not physically working you spend worrying about the future. Savings tied up in the business, no pension being paid into for the last five years and many employed people with pretty much guaranteed incomes refusing to spend any money and a government steadfastly sticking to austerity with not a clue as to how they are going to kick start the economy again.

Telling us the economy is growing because exports have increased marginally is a whole load of rubbish. OK it keeps some people in jobs that they otherwise might not have but basically it lines the pockets of the mainly multinational companies who pay little tax and repatriate their profits anyway. Real economic growth will only occur when domestic consumption is improved, this is not going to happen any time soon, in fact I am pretty sure I will not be around to see it.

The future of many self employed people is extremely bleak.
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# 10 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 09:36
 
 
I don't fully quality as "self employed" but as a musician I will one day be self employed.
One of the hardest things about music is trying to convince people to pay you. There comes a time when you need to say "enough is enough, this is my fee take it or leave it".
But then you run the risk of being undercut.

I'm not sure all of this applies to whatever ever area of self employment some of you are in, but it does allow me to somewhat imagine the sorts of issues self employed people face. As well as that banks (what precious use they are in today's economy anyways) seem to have no time for people who are self employed.
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# 11 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 11:59
 
 
It might just be tiredness I really don't know but I am sitting here today with no heart in my work counting down till closing and constantly on the verge of tears which is not like me at all.

I've never felt more demoralised or hurt in my life
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# 12 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 12:27
 
 
Have you any jobs going?
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# 13 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 13:26
 
 
I'd actually like to set up as a web designer on my own. I made a couple of websites a few years back. I have socialphobia so working on my own is natural, though at the cost of stunted social skills. But getting a PAYE job seems impossible at the moment. Employers are discriminating against the longterm unemployed. They can just fly people in who will do as their told and not go on strike or expect a decent wage.
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# 14 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 13:32
 
 
I have been self employed since I left college. It is definitely not for everyone. I can empathise with everything the OP has stated. I would say if you think your business is viable in the long run, stick with it, but if not, don't stick your head in the sand. Cut your losses and try something else.
You mentioned the customer who expected a cup and saucer while you were dealing with an inspector. She should have been your first priority. She pays the bills, not some overpaid useless civil servant who does not generate any wealth or create jobs. I would have told them politely that I have customers to take care of.
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# 15 : Friday 2-8-2013 @ 18:20
 
 
That's a good point re the customer service.
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