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Marriage: For Love Or For Benefits?
 
# 1 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 00:28
 
 
A friend of mine has been in a relationship with a man from Canada for around 18 months and the Canadian has asked him to marry him.
If they were married, the Irish guy could spend longer than 6 months per year in Canada and the Canadian could spend longer than 3 months in Ireland.
Also, their tax bill will be lower.

This begs the question.
Why would 2 people who want to spend time together bother to get the government(s) involved unless there is financial benefit or travel benefit or other benefit?

Wouldn't you both just say to each other "ok, we're married".
It's not as if being "legally" married makes it more difficult to break up, that's silly.

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# 2 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 00:55
 
 
I think you don't understand the situation, they won't be able to spend as much time together if they don't actually get married.
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# 3 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 01:32
 
 
Someone said :
I think you don't understand the situation, they won't be able to spend as much time together if they don't actually get married.

That's my point (or part of it).
So, they need to get married to avail of benefits the government(s) would grant them.
Nobody needs to get married due to liking or loving each other.
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# 4 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 01:51
 
 
What has need got to do with it?
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# 5 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 05:37
 
 
I think one attraction of marriage apart from the practical/legal stuff is that it's a public announcement of your love and also it's a chance to share your happiness/in loveness with other people you care about.
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# 6 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 05:41
 
 
Plus you're forgetting a lot of people are still quite religious and want their relationship blessed. Or mor rarely, want to finally lose their virginity lol
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# 7 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 06:12
 
 
I thought the secret of a successful marriage was hardly ever seeing your other half at all
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# 8 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 10:49
 
 
Someone said :
I think one attraction of marriage apart from the practical/legal stuff is that it's a public announcement of your love and also it's a chance to share your happiness/in loveness with other people you care about.

That's a silly, insecure reason to get LEGALLY married.
You can do all of that in a day long marriage celebration and just pretend to sign the legal marriage document, but don't sign it.
Someone said :
Plus you're forgetting a lot of people are still quite religious and want their relationship blessed. Or mor rarely, want to finally lose their virginity lol

That's a silly reason to get LEGALLY married.
If you are worried about god - you can sign the church marriage document but leave the legal marriage document unsigned.
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# 9 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 10:53
 
 
Someone said :
What has need got to do with it?

They need to get married in order to spend unlimited time with each other in either Ireland or Canada.
If they aren't married there is a lot of hassle surrounding this.
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# 10 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 10:56
 
 
Someone said :

That's a silly, insecure reason to get LEGALLY married.
You can do all of that in a day long marriage celebration and just pretend to sign the legal marriage document, but don't sign it.

Why would someone do that?
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# 11 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 12:37
 
 
Someone said :

Why would someone do that?

Someone said :
I think one attraction of marriage apart from the practical/legal stuff is that it's a public announcement of your love and also it's a chance to share your happiness/in loveness with other people you care about .

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# 12 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 12:44
 
 
Someone said :

No, I am asking why would someone pretend to sign a legal document in marriage cermony.

Your topic seems to be about marriages of convenience but after that you are not making much sense.
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# 13 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 13:04
 
 
I don't understand the point here at all. It seems like they are marrying for love they are marrying because they want to spend more time together.

Isn't pooling resources always a factor in marriage or even moving in together. Why is that wrong? Aren't you just following the law in order to make it easier for you to be together and have a stress free time. Removing the obstacles to togetherness?

Calorie I think you possibly need to have your own issue with it fully cemented before going to paper with it as your points on the subject appear quite confused.
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# 14 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 13:38
 
 
Have you ever been to a funeral Calorie? or a birthday party? or a debs? or a graduation ceremony?

Marriage is the public/social/civil event with the theme of two people and the intention of life long monogamy with each other.

It's the Social event you hold when two people love each other enough to have a crack at living together forever.
Family, friends, photographs, memories, etc.

The legal stuff (and quite frankly the religious stuff) is/are the bits that are tacked on.
things like marraige certs and the church holdign the damn thing started as a means of actually keeping record of who was married to whom, as you might imagine in earlier ages and without any records, there was no way to actually prove you were married to someone (thus you could marry divorce, marry divorce marry divorce etc with no record) adn the only way to actually certify you were married was to invite everyone to a day out (witnesses, so people will know it happened) and have a cert resting somewhere in a public vault or filing cabinet of some description.
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# 15 : Friday 9-8-2013 @ 14:02
 
 
I think the point Calorie seems to be making is that really the only point of marriage is for financial benefit.
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