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Do You Pratice Safe Oral Sex
 
# 16 : Wednesday 15-1-2014 @ 18:04
 
 
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No I'm not wrong.

All of what you quote is true, but what you leave out is of course the highest risk, where a HIV- man or woman performs oral sex on a HIV+ man.

If you really think it's "very very low" risk of passing on HIV when an HIV+ man shoots his sperm and leaks his pre cum into the mouth of an HIV- person, then that's your choice to believe that. However, to spread the idea that that is "very very low risk" is akin to the pope spreading the lie that condoms increase the incidence of Aids.

HIV is passed on in, among other ways, semen to blood contact, which is why, for example, you are advised not to brush your teeth in advance of fellating a man whose HIV status you are unaware or unsure of. If you are really saying that you have no issue taking sperm and pre cum into your mouth from someone who is HIV+, then thats your choice, but to spread the untruth that thats "very very low risk" to others is not responsible.

I reiterate, the internet is not a place to take sexual health advice from strangers, no matter how well meaning they might be, and the only place we should take sexual health advice is from suitably medically qualified professionals.
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# 17 : Wednesday 15-1-2014 @ 18:10
 
 
Someone said :

All of what you quote is true, but what you leave out is of course the highest risk, where a HIV- man or woman performs oral sex on a HIV+ man.

If you really think it's "very very low" risk of passing on HIV when an HIV+ man shoots his sperm and leaks his pre cum into the mouth of an HIV- person, then that's your choice to believe that. However, to spread the idea that that is "very very low risk" is akin to the pope spreading the lie that condoms increase the incidence of Aids.

HIV is passed on in, among other ways, semen to blood contact, which is why, for example, you are advised not to brush your teeth in advance of fellating a man whose HIV status you are unaware or unsure of. If you are really saying that you have no issue taking sperm and pre cum into your mouth from someone who is HIV+, then thats your choice, but to spread the untruth that thats "very very low risk" to others is not responsible.

I reiterate, the internet is not a place to take sexual health advice from strangers, no matter how well meaning they might be, and the only place we should take sexual health advice is from suitably medically qualified professionals.

I left out nothing, I posted accurately what is available on the website of a significant Aids charity and awareness organisation. I can go on to many other websites and find the same or similar. I have never advocated that people take sexual health advice from strangers, of course people should consult experts. This is a discussion forum, I am discussing and unlike yourself I am quoting the experts. Your scaremongering is about as helpful to sexual health as...

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# 18 : Wednesday 15-1-2014 @ 18:31
 
 
Someone said :
If you are really saying that you have no issue taking sperm and pre cum into your mouth from someone who is HIV+, then thats your choice.


Even though people say it's safe, they wouldn't do it with a HIV+ person,
oh, no way.
'Cos then it immediately becomes risky.
or should I say, someone who has told them beforehand that he is HIV+


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# 19 : Wednesday 15-1-2014 @ 18:41
 
 
Many people would never knowledgeably have sex with a HIV+ even with a whole body condom on.

I want to point that I never said it was safe. I've made no comment on the myriad other STDs, I was just repeating what is widely available and repeated on HIV/Aids awareness websites in relation to HIV/Aids.
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# 20 : Wednesday 15-1-2014 @ 19:41
 
 
Got to say would never think of using a condom for oral as the whole joy of giving a blow job is the taste and feel of a cock in your mouth and the reward for your work is to feel the cum explode and fill you.
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# 21 : Wednesday 15-1-2014 @ 23:46
 
 
How can you tell how and when you caught HIV anyway? I never understand how they can be so sure about these things.
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# 22 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 02:51
 
 
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I never understand how they can be so sure about these things.

When you have a HIV test and antibodies to the virus are detected in the blood.
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# 23 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 03:35
 
 
Someone said :
How can you tell how and when you caught HIV anyway? I never understand how they can be so sure about these things.

I know what you mean.
If you had oral and anal sex without a condom, how do they know which act caused the infection?
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# 24 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 06:32
 
 
Someone said :

When you have a HIV test and antibodies to the virus are detected in the blood.

But how would that tell how you caught the disease?
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# 25 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 08:12
 
 
Someone said :

I left out nothing, I posted accurately what is available on the website of a significant Aids charity and awareness organisation. I can go on to many other websites and find the same or similar. I have never advocated that people take sexual health advice from strangers, of course people should consult experts. This is a discussion forum, I am discussing and unlike yourself I am quoting the experts. Your scaremongering is about as helpful to sexual health as...


Well, actually, you left out the highest risk category, that of an HIV- person performing fellatio on a HIV+ man.

You seem to be giving out mixed messages, one where you agree that we should not take sexual health advice from strangers on the internet and seek it only from qualified health professionals, yet you also seem to offer sexual health advice to strangers here on the internet.
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# 26 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 08:13
 
 
Someone said :

I know what you mean.
If you had oral and anal sex without a condom, how do they know which act caused the infection?

It could be both, or neither.
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# 27 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 10:50
 
 
Someone said :

But how would that tell how you caught the disease?

The only way to conclusively tell is to go for a HIV test, hence why regular testing is recommended. Some people suffer a seroconversion illness but the symptoms can vary and not everyone does so a HIV test for antibodies is the only conclusive means to know if you have HIV.
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# 28 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 11:02
 
 
Someone said :

The only way to conclusively tell is to go for a HIV test, hence why regular testing is recommended. Some people suffer a seroconversion illness but the symptoms can vary and not everyone does so a HIV test for antibodies is the only conclusive means to know if you have HIV.

How does a test for HIV tell whether the infection was caught as a result or oral sex, or anal sex?
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# 29 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 11:34
 
 
@ Penny, @ Kiwi I misread initial post (apologies it was late when I first read it). There is no way of telling how/ conclusively when you were infected.

BTW There has never been a medically proven case of transmission amongst gay men through oral sex... which given the amount of oral sex gays have is saying something about how difficult/ unlikely oral transmission is.


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# 30 : Thursday 16-1-2014 @ 13:48
 
 
Someone said :

Well, actually, you left out the highest risk category, that of an HIV- person performing fellatio on a HIV+ man.

actually the highest risk factor for getting HIV from sex is to receive anal sex
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