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The Future Of Europe?
 
# 1 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 17:49
 
 
When you think about it, Europe is a very volatile place for such a small area. The only time there seems to have had some peace in the last thousand years was during the cold war which is ironic in itself and its countries borders are for ever changing, sometimes peacefully more times not. With two hemispheres of influence, the EU and Russia vying for power in the chess board that is Europe. How do you see Europe pan out in the long run?


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# 2 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 18:08
 
 
I think the era of EU expansion is over. Russia has seen to that. It will not allow the West to further encroach on its sphere of influence.

I think another treaty change or 2 are required or the EU is finished. What is required is a European army as a deterrent to further Russian aggression - particularly against Eastern Europe. Also the paralysis over sanctions underlines the imperative for the elimination of national vetoes in this area in favour of qualified majority voting.
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# 3 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 18:11
 
 
Someone said :
I think the era of EU expansion is over. Russia has seen to that. It will not allow the West to further encroach on its sphere of influence.

What about Turkey though.? Have they joined the EU yet.? And Iceland?
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# 4 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 18:17
 
 
The Earth is only 6,000 years old, I thought?
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# 5 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 18:19
 
 
Someone said :

What about Turkey though.? Have they joined the EU yet.? And Iceland?

Turkey wants to but won't be let the way it's going under its megalomaniac leader who purges the police force for investigating him, blocks youtube and tries to block twitter. Iceland has cancelled its referendum.
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# 6 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 18:19
 
 
Someone said :

What about Turkey though.? Have they joined the EU yet.? And Iceland?

Turkey wants to but won't be let in the way it's going under its megalomaniac leader who purges the police force for investigating him, blocks youtube and tries to block twitter. Iceland has cancelled its referendum.
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# 7 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 18:24
 
 
June 28th will be the 100th anniversary of the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife in sarajevo by Gavrilo pricip. there has been a lot of changes in Europe over those 100 years. the next 100 years could be just as intersting but hopefully without the bloodshed of two world wars.
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# 8 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 18:43
 
 
I think those who warned enlargement would paralyse the EU have to some extent been vindicated by the Crimea crisis.
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# 9 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 19:04
 
 
Love her or hate Margaret Thatcher was totally against German re-unification and eastwards expansion of NATO and the EU.

She said: “This would lead to a change to postwar borders, and we cannot allow that because such a development would undermine the stability of the whole international situation and could endanger our security.”

And just look at what happened, now - the price of greed will be heavy.

http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/112006
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# 10 : Monday 31-3-2014 @ 19:15
 
 
Well to be fair Gorbachev agreed to German unification - on condition NATO didn't expand. However I sill agree with NATO expansion as otherwise Putin would be in the Baltic states now to 'protect Russian speakers'.

If Russia was a democracy and not a revanchist, neo-Nationalist autocracy, the West wouldn't need to expand NATO.
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# 11 : Tuesday 1-4-2014 @ 01:27
 
 
Someone said :
I think the era of EU expansion is over.

I don't think so! Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia and Moldova are all knocking at the EU door.
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# 12 : Tuesday 1-4-2014 @ 01:36
 
 
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I don't think so! Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia and Moldova are all knocking at the EU door.

The Moldovan bid will likely be dropped if as expected the Communists win the forthcoming parliamentary elections I think this year They are interested in joining the Russia-Belarus-Kazakhan customs union (as is Armenia which dropped its EU Association agreement bid recently under pressure from Moscow). Georgia is also due to sign this year but Russians are also pressuring them not to.
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# 13 : Tuesday 1-4-2014 @ 14:19
 
 
Moldova hasn't a hope in hell of joining the Russia-Belarus-Kazakhan customs union. It is culturally Romanian not Russian. They even recently dropped their 'gay propaganda' law to appease the EU and the EU even has an office in Chisnau to help with their bid to join the EU!
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# 14 : Tuesday 1-4-2014 @ 14:33
 
 
Any further EU expansion in an easterly direction is going to upset Mr Putin, although he has possibly given up on Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, Bosnia Herzegovina and Macedonia for the time being. Some efforts will be exerted to maintain the traditional Russian influance in Serbia but nothing compared to the efforts that will be exerted in the areas of Moldova, Georgia and the other countries which are closer to Russia and which were part of the Soviet Union. The three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lituania could see significant efforts at destabilisation coming from the very significant Russian populations within these countries.
I think that the EU needs to have a long hard look at the NATO arrangement and seriously consider an EU Defence arrangement, as suggested by Herodotus, which will operate outside of the NATO structure as the NATO structure is very heavily influanced by American Foreign Policy. Such a Defence Structure would allow the EU the flexibility to operate as a single military and foreign policy entity and take whatever action that the EU considers most appropriate in these circumstances and not be reliant on the US to rubber stamp what ever action the EU considers is necessary.
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# 15 : Tuesday 1-4-2014 @ 14:39
 
 
Russia has no issue with Serbia joining the EU, quite the opposite in fact. It looks forward to having more influence within the EU.
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