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# 1396 : Wednesday 16-1-2019 @ 22:41
 
 
Someone said :
I presume there will either be a no-deal brexit now or a second referendum.

I sort of feel sorry for Theresa May - she was handed a poisoned chalice.

Teresa may set red lines that delivered her to this position there was no other outcome and she didn't reach out across parliament to try to reach a consensus position.
I don't know why anybody would feel sorry for her she created the hostile environment and shipped British citizens off to the Caribbean because they were black.
The only thing parliament is clear on is they don't want a no deal they aren't sure exactly what they do want, a customs union looks the most likely solution with some form of Swiss bilaterals to the customs union which will take away the need for a backstop.
This will split the conservative party Ann's the Labour party but this is the deal that will get through .
They will have to accept free movement but this was in the transition anyway.
I think the British will quite enjoy a Swiss type deal because it must be constantly negotiated and updated and they have become addicted to the drama .
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# 1397 : Thursday 17-1-2019 @ 14:38
 
 
The way i read it, one of three possible things could happen here:

1) The UK withdraws Article 50 (Thereby cancelling brexit.)
2) The UK get an extension to Article 50, or
3) A second referendum or people's vote could take place.

All of those three options will take a lot more time than the uk has at the moment. A split in both the conservative and labour parties is also a real possibility as is a potential leadership heave on both May and Corbyn also cannot be ruled out.
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# 1398 : Thursday 17-1-2019 @ 20:41
 
 
Someone said :
The way i read it, one of three possible things could happen here:

1) The UK withdraws Article 50 (Thereby cancelling brexit.)
2) The UK get an extension to Article 50, or
3) A second referendum or people's vote could take place.

All of those three options will take a lot more time than the uk has at the moment. A split in both the conservative and labour parties is also a real possibility as is a potential leadership heave on both May and Corbyn also cannot be ruled out.

To extend article 50 there has to be an election or a referendum.
To withdraw article 50 there has to be legislation initiated by the government .
The referendum is contingent on the sitting government deciding to hold one and the tories know changing the date of leaving would split the party, they can’t change the leader ( May ) because they tried, failed and have to wait a whole year.
Corbin isn’t going anywhere either.
May is a pragmatic politician which is why she accepted the backstop knowing the dup wouldn’t. The spin that the conservatives were putting on their defeat was that the other parties wanted free movement so maybe this is a sign that the conservatives think they can win an election on this issue, she was the minister who brought in the hostile environment and they have never guaranteed EU citizens rights.
I think the torys and the dup would love to fight an election on immigration, I wouldn’t like to be a foreigner living there if they do!
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# 1399 : Sunday 20-1-2019 @ 11:52
 
 
It's strange, if the withdrawal deal is dead then why are the UK government and tory backbenchers so exercised to remove or renegotiate the backstop???
If it's dead it's dead but for example Boris and Dominic both cant stop talking about it ?
No 10 planting stories in the papers that they want to negotiate a bilateral to replace it ? They know that's the competence of the commission .
Boris and raab should know better ok would think.
The prime minister's office are spreading misinformation, it's a pity they didn't negotiate in the last two years instead of doing nothing and waiting until the last minute and then panicking .
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# 1400 : Tuesday 22-1-2019 @ 13:39
 
 
Seems May is intent on running down the clock and then putting her original deal before Parliament again.
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# 1401 : Tuesday 22-1-2019 @ 19:30
 
 
Someone said :
Seems May is intent on running down the clock and then putting her original deal before Parliament again.

Do you think, she's trying to sabotage it and be Guy Fawkes part 2?
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# 1402 : Thursday 24-1-2019 @ 08:53
 
 

British politicians are not very trusted - which is why everything important is locked into legal agreements and that’s why they are so bothered by the backstop because they never intended to keep their word on it .
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# 1403 : Sunday 27-1-2019 @ 09:14
 
 
Helen McEntee ran rings around John Humphreys on today radio show interview, it’s amazing the attitude the British have that after they asked for the backstop to be made uk wide ; they then pronounce but it could stop us leaving the single market and customs union and then they walk out the British people voted for it and then when it’s pointed out well actually your governments red lines caused all this they can’t get their heads around it.
Plus their logic can’t take in that an existing treaty has to be taken into account.
Also incredibly the british reporter threw everything at the Irish minister including Ireland rejoining the uk but he failed to suggest Irish reunification as a solution to their brexit problems ? Strange he missed that.
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# 1404 : Sunday 27-1-2019 @ 11:09
 
 
The British, like their American cousins and a few others. Like to make deals, so they can break them later or not honor them and they are the ones leaving the EU.
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# 1405 : Monday 28-1-2019 @ 09:18
 
 
The British are properly vexed by the backstop although hilariously it's only because it's in the legally binding withdrawal agreement.
If it was in the future declaration which isn't legally binding they wouldn't give a shit about it because they've no intention of keeping the commitments they've made.
It would be amusing to watch them squirm except the subject is so serious.
Why can't their word be taken anymore?
They can't even carry over EU trade deals it doesn't look good for new ones.
One of the tenets of brexit failed, new trade deals .
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# 1406 : Tuesday 29-1-2019 @ 12:34
 
 
The nervous breakdown has gone delirious.
The English Tory party navel gazing is hypnotizing them.
Backstop backstop backstop.
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# 1407 : Tuesday 29-1-2019 @ 14:09
 
 
The thing about no deal brexit is the British citizens living in the EU will lose their health cover - it's a scary prospect for these retirees.
They aren't going to get medical insurance or if they do it will be very expensive .
The Tory brexiters and the dup don't give a shit about them because they can't relate to them

The age profile of EU nationals in the UK is much wider but many older people are facing similar issues.

The human cost ...
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# 1408 : Tuesday 29-1-2019 @ 16:59
 
 
It's snowing heavy here!Oh Fook, wrong one?
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# 1409 : Tuesday 29-1-2019 @ 18:48
 
 
Someone said :
It's snowing heavy here!Oh Fook, wrong one?

Photo or it's not true
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# 1410 : Tuesday 29-1-2019 @ 18:56
 
 
How do the British think they will be able to negotiate trade deals when they arn't able to negotiate anything, haven't been able to carry over a single existing trade deal and even when they let the other side do all the work, they try and continuously change their minds and make changes.
Do they think any trade group or country is going to put up with that?
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