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Keep/Repeal The 8th, Referendum?
 
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# 106 : Sunday 18-3-2018 @ 22:20
 
 
I'm not sure if Yes will win, I think more real honest stories from people's experiences of getting an abortion and the reason why they had to get it, might help the yes side. I think lots of people think they don't know anyone who had an abortion.
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# 107 : Sunday 18-3-2018 @ 22:22
 
 
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# 108 : Monday 19-3-2018 @ 00:35
 
 
MAKING IT PUBLIC

Someone said :
I'm not sure if Yes will win, I think more real honest stories from people's experiences of getting an abortion and the reason why they had to get it, might help the yes side. I think lots of people think they don't know anyone who had an abortion.

In France, in 1971, 343 women in the public eye signed Simone de Beauvoir's manifest, which became known as the manifest of the 343 bitches/sluts. (Including Catherine Deneuve and Fran├žoise Sagan)
They basically admitted to having had an (illegal) abortion, knowing that they could not possibly prosecuted, and that it would move the general opinion towards the realization that the criminalisation of abortion was a social and legal aberration.

I am not sure it would work in Ireland, but it is the only way of letting everyone know that they know someone who could have been criminalized for making a choice that was right for them at the time.

WORDING "REPEAL THE 8th"

Also I hope that they will phase-out the reference to "Repeal the 8th" because that is non-sense.
The referendum will be about removing or replacing Article 40.3.3, which comes from the 8th Amendement, and was expended by the 13th and 14th Amendements.

A 36th Amendement could simply remove, or replace Article 4.3.3 with abortion-allowing wording. And leave the 8th, 13th and 14th alone.

The same way that we did not remove the Amendements voted to allow ratification of European treaties that are no longer valid when we ratified the next one.

An Amendement, as opposed to the US system, is not part of the constitution: it only indicates what changes have been approved by the people! In the US once ratified, it becomes "an operative addition to the Constitution" and can be repealed by another one... but remains in place in the constitution... (Famously, the 21st repealed the prohibition-time's 18th.)
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# 109 : Monday 19-3-2018 @ 08:57
 
 
Noooooooooooooooo

Amending the 8th, 13th and 14th is just a huge recipe for disaster.

And it is a completely moot and irrelevant point now.

In the 36th amendment the public will be asked to repeal article 40.3.3 of the constitution and replace it with the following 13 word sentence: "provision may be made in law for regulation of termination of a pregnancy."
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# 110 : Monday 19-3-2018 @ 23:16
 
 
And because of those 13 highly ambiguous words i believe it will fail..
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# 111 : Tuesday 20-3-2018 @ 10:36
 
 
Someone said :
And because of those 13 highly ambiguous words i believe it will fail..

Nothing ambiguous about them at all.
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# 112 : Friday 13-4-2018 @ 16:08
 
 
All around my area there are No posters but not one single Yes poster.

When is this on again?
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# 113 : Friday 13-4-2018 @ 19:51
 
 
Someone said :
All around my area there are No posters but not one single Yes poster.

When is this on again?

25 May.
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# 114 : Friday 13-4-2018 @ 19:58
 
 
Cheers Ozren
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# 115 : Sunday 15-4-2018 @ 22:34
 
 
It does seem that the No side of the campaign have an advantage in terms of the number of posters up.

The Yes sude really need to up their game.
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# 116 : Sunday 15-4-2018 @ 22:45
 
 
The whole country would have been behind repeal but for that arbitrary 12 week, no questions asked concession.. Even though i'm in the No camp, I abhor the tactics of some No campaigners.. Calling people murderers on their doorstep is helpful to no one..
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# 117 : Sunday 15-4-2018 @ 22:59
 
 
Someone said :
It does seem that the No side of the campaign have an advantage in terms of the number of posters up.

The Yes sude really need to up their game.

It was the same in the marriage equality referendum. The no got out early but yes blasted it when they got out.
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# 118 : Sunday 15-4-2018 @ 23:24
 
 
Dem wimmen and their "body autonomy", who do dey tink dey are inanyway, men.?
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# 119 : Sunday 15-4-2018 @ 23:39
 
 
Dem young Fetuses in de Womb.. who do them tink dem are.. People..!!
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# 120 : Monday 16-4-2018 @ 06:53
 
 
Someone said :
The whole country would have been behind repeal but for that arbitrary 12 week, no questions asked concession..

They wouldnt really!! I dont think the 12 weeks is as controversial as no voters think it is.
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