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NI Woman Convicted Of Procuring Abortion Using Pills
 
# 1 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 15:51
 
 
I was reading about this story on another web forum. Basically, a 19 year old woman in Northern Ireland was given a 3 month suspended sentence for ingesting abortion pills and terminating her pregnancy because she couldn't afford to travel to Britain. Apparently her housemates reported her to the police.

Personally,I feel sorry for the woman in question. She must have felt desperate. Was giving her a criminal conviction the right thing to do? The archaic and backward laws in NI and here badly need to be changed. If that young woman had been convicted here in the Republic she could have faced 14 years in prison. Is that right?
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# 2 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 15:58
 
 
I read that yesterday. Housemates reportedly found bloodied clothes and foetal remains and decided to alert the police. Not sure how much of that is true.
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# 3 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 16:53
 
 
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# 4 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 17:00
 
 

Absolute tradgedy....
A law dating back 150 years saw a young woman villified and humiliated...
Lovely to see that bitch from Precious Life get her talons out yet again
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# 5 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 18:38
 
 
A thought experiment:
They should make "trial laws"
Laws that are in power for a few years to see how things go.

my suggestion: those people who are pro-life should be legally obliged to raise unwanted children and the children stemming from rape assaults until those children are 18, if they want to interfere in an abortion.

Making it so you can legally tell a woman what she is required to do with her body, but only providing you raise the resulting child until it is 18 years old and legally an independent adult. But it's not that easy; The child (now fully raised) gets a general mental and physical health checkup, and if they are deemed in any way "messed up", unhealthy, or unemployable, then you get fined and imprisoned for three months for the irresponsible "bringing into the world" and poor quality raising of a child that it's original parents had planned to terminate before birth.

Then we'll see how many people hold axiomatic stances on abortion.
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# 6 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 19:01
 
 
Isn't there fairly huge demand for adoption of unwanted babies? Don't Irish people have to wait years and look abroad for adoptions?
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# 7 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 19:10
 
 
Yes, but women are not incubators.
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# 8 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 19:11
 
 
Someone said :
Yes, but women are not incubators.

No doubt and I didn't for one second mean to suggest that they are or should be viewed in such a light. I was merely taking up Greenman's proposed treatment of those who are pro-life.
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# 9 : Wednesday 6-4-2016 @ 21:33
 
 
Someone said :

Absolute tradgedy....
A law dating back 150 years saw a young woman villified and humiliated...
Lovely to see that bitch from Precious Life get her talons out yet again

She is evil personified. No compassion, no empathy, no understanding. Just pure hatred. That is what we're dealing with with the so-called pro life brigade.
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# 10 : Saturday 9-4-2016 @ 09:34
 
 
The housemates should not be trolled like they have been: they did the right thing.
They tried to help her, she refused. She needed medical and mental health help, and if you find a dead baby in a bin and you do not immediately call the cops, then you are no better than a bishop moving pedophiles from parish to parish.
I am not "pro-life" but I recognize a responsible citizen doing the right thing when I see one. Its not because everyone else in this story is doing the wrong thing that the housemates should have left that dead body being thrown with the trash.
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# 11 : Sunday 10-4-2016 @ 02:28
 
 
Someone said :
The housemates should not be trolled like they have been: they did the right thing.
They tried to help her, she refused. She needed medical and mental health help, and if you find a dead baby in a bin and you do not immediately call the cops, then you are no better than a bishop moving pedophiles from parish to parish.
I am not "pro-life" but I recognize a responsible citizen doing the right thing when I see one. Its not because everyone else in this story is doing the wrong thing that the housemates should have left that dead body being thrown with the trash.

Why not? They reported that young woman to the police knowing that she would be arrested and convicted and have to go through a humiliating ordeal. IMO they were very callous. The young woman was probably terrified and panicked when she disposed of her aborted foetus.

Abortion laws really do need reform.
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# 12 : Sunday 10-4-2016 @ 09:54
 
 
Someone said :

Why not? They reported that young woman to the police knowing that she would be arrested and convicted and have to go through a humiliating ordeal. IMO they were very callous. The young woman was probably terrified and panicked when she disposed of her aborted foetus.

Abortion laws really do need reform.

Actually they didn't know she was going to be arrested and convicted!!!
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# 13 : Sunday 10-4-2016 @ 11:27
 
 
Someone said :

The young woman was probably terrified and panicked when she disposed of her aborted foetus.

1st they did not know she would be arrested. Second if she was arrested it means that they would have been accomplices of a crime by not calling the police. Are you calling the police callous for arresting her then? And third the testimony of the housemates is that she was being dismissive of the act she had performed, as if she had just thrown out a towel she had puked on the night before.

But you feel she "probably felt" the way that makes you feel so superior to the poor housemates who faced a terrible moral dilemma. You react like a bishop who does not want to call the cops because the poor priest is punished enough because he will go to hell for not being more careful!
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