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# 1066 : Saturday 27-1-2018 @ 16:21
 
 
Someone said :
My bus from O'Connell bridge to Nassau Street took over ten minutes today, could have strolled quicker.

Take it to the rant thread!
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# 1067 : Saturday 27-1-2018 @ 18:20
 
 
Someone said :
Take it to the rant thread!

It is Bi, I think it belongs in both threads?
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# 1068 : Saturday 27-1-2018 @ 20:56
 
 
Why would you get a bus from O'Connell Bridge to Nassau St?
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# 1069 : Sunday 28-1-2018 @ 10:25
 
 
Someone said :
Why would you get a bus from O'Connell Bridge to Nassau St?

He is jesus, can't walk on water anymore with all the rain and floods?
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# 1070 : Sunday 28-1-2018 @ 13:51
 
 
No.
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# 1071 : Tuesday 30-1-2018 @ 14:34
 
 
I wish we had a non hijacked brexit thread!
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# 1072 : Tuesday 30-1-2018 @ 14:45
 
 
Wasn't going to Nassau, was en route to the RDS, the traffic at College Green is a mess.
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# 1073 : Tuesday 30-1-2018 @ 16:00
 
 
Someone said :
Wasn't going to Nassau, was en route to the RDS, the traffic at College Green is a mess.

Oh righto. The bus routes in town are all fucked up because of the Luas. Very annoying. I'm lucky I don't have to do the slog through town every day for work.
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# 1074 : Tuesday 30-1-2018 @ 22:45
 
 
One of my staff was emailed by the director this morning telling her he wants her to do a particular task for him tomorrow morning. She checked with me before replying to him to ask was that OK.

That's not how hierarchies work...
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# 1075 : Wednesday 31-1-2018 @ 05:57
 
 
Someone said :
One of my staff was emailed by the director this morning telling her he wants her to do a particular task for him tomorrow morning. She checked with me before replying to him to ask was that OK.

That's not how hierarchies work...

Actually, it is .

She did check with you and you said no (or yes).
If she had felt it was an opportunity, she had the option to ask you to OK it, or to ask him to notify you of his orders/instructions.

It may not be how the policies in your department are laid out as regard work assignments, ways of working, and how the hierarchy is specifically implemented.
It may not be how hierarchical courtesy works: informing you would have been nice, and you were informed...
But in a hierarchy, the chain of command can most always be shortcut going down : it is on the way up that shortcuts/bypasses are more restricted to basically grievances against the by-passed party. So it is how hierarchies work: now you have the option to decline the services of your subordinate who informed you, and/or to discuss future ways of working "down the chain".
He was justified by the time-pressure / deadline to by-pass you. Especially if he has a pre-exiting positive working relationship with her.
If there is more to it than you exposed, you also have the option to express your grievance to his hierarchical superior![I assumed you worked for the Roinn Gnóthai Fostaíochta agus Coimirce Sóisialaí, but it could be the Army or any private company really]
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# 1076 : Wednesday 31-1-2018 @ 10:04
 
 
Always follow your last order of a higher rank. I'd say it was out of courtesy she checked with you first.
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# 1077 : Monday 5-2-2018 @ 09:32
 
 
That weekend went in a blur.
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# 1078 : Monday 5-2-2018 @ 17:47
 
 
Someone said :
I wish we had a non hijacked brexit thread!

Can a poster be limited, to so many posts a day and as punishment for hijacking?
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# 1079 : Monday 5-2-2018 @ 18:06
 
 
Dunno bbz
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# 1080 : Monday 5-2-2018 @ 23:02
 
 
Someone said :
Actually, it is .

She did check with you and you said no (or yes).
If she had felt it was an opportunity, she had the option to ask you to OK it, or to ask him to notify you of his orders/instructions.

It may not be how the policies in your department are laid out as regard work assignments, ways of working, and how the hierarchy is specifically implemented.
It may not be how hierarchical courtesy works: informing you would have been nice, and you were informed...
But in a hierarchy, the chain of command can most always be shortcut going down : it is on the way up that shortcuts/bypasses are more restricted to basically grievances against the by-passed party. So it is how hierarchies work: now you have the option to decline the services of your subordinate who informed you, and/or to discuss future ways of working "down the chain".
He was justified by the time-pressure / deadline to by-pass you. Especially if he has a pre-exiting positive working relationship with her.
If there is more to it than you exposed, you also have the option to express your grievance to his hierarchical superior![I assumed you worked for the Roinn Gnóthai Fostaíochta agus Coimirce Sóisialaí, but it could be the Army or any private company really]

Ahh... maybe a misunderstanding of my point. Asking me if it was OK to do a task assigned by the top dog was, IMHO, her not understanding how a hierarchy works. It can be a problem if it happens regularly so that you don't know what work your direct reports have, but in the real world, if the director by-passes you (for example, when you're out, or when your direct report is the keeper of the special knowledge), then she does not need my permission to do the task.

That said, a pal of mine work in a global firm with lots of retail customers who buy online. That firm deliberately and very clearly limits certain things that managers above a certain level are allowed to do, in order to prevent them getting access to customers' credit card details because that combined with other data they do have access to could lead to massive fraud.
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