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The George And Hearing Damage
# 16 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 14:09
The problem is not the platforms, it's the idiots who use them!
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# 17 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 14:15
Someone said :
law suit my hole!

when did everyone turn into idiots, get real people!

Well we vote for governments who choose to not tax these large corporations, these governments then in turn introduce legislation to penalise those who use the services of these corporations, if they say something they don't like. Our litigious society is an American bi-product.
# 18 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 14:51
I wasn't angling for a claim. Hearing loss claims are difficult to prove and have poor payouts.There was a garda who drove the dog unit van and had hearing damage from the constant barking. He only got 15000 which is an insult. I couldn't put a price on my hearing.
I was merely trying to help raise awareness of the danger so other people might not have to suffer the damage which I have to live with. There was no public awareness in 2006/07 of the danger at clubs. I really wish someone had told me how dangerous these clubs were. I don't recall a single discussion about it at school or college in the late 90s and early 00s. Sure, I knew loud music can damage your hearing over time but I really didn't expect a few dozen visits to a particular club to wreck my hearing that quickly. The volume was obviously extremely dangerous if that's what happened. That should never have been allowed. If these venues were such a serious public health threat they should have warning signs informing the customers and the staff. That would give people pause for thought. A sign at the entrance and around the dance floor stating "Danger of Tinnitus and Hearing Loss" would really have made me stop and think I don't want that to happen. Since there was none I think most people thought it was safe and must have been checked out. It wasn't back in 06/07. This was totally irresponsible for the relevant authorities to allow this. They have noise limiters now which proves the music was dangerously loud then. It was just too late for my generation. It was grossly negligent of the Government to allow this to continue for so long. The damage will start to emerge over the coming years as people who went to clubs around 90s/00's start to get older. It could have been prevented easily with a little effort to inform people. I never wanted the music to be so loud at these clubs and tried to stay away from the speakers. The only other choice I had was to leave but loud bars and clubs are the main social venues for young people in Ireland. I didn't know about earplugs for clubs then and never seen anyone wearing them back then.
Hearing loss and tinnitus are horrible conditions. I don't think there's much public sympathy for them and a lot of people just think a hearing aid will fix it. They don't restore normal hearing. I know of people on a tinnitus support website who committed suicide because they couldn't bear it.
Given how serious these conditions are I feel the authorities really did a bad job for a long time with these issues. It's a shame for a lot of people whose lives will badly affected by these health problems.
# 19 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:02
I find most shoe shops play music louder than pubs these days
# 20 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:11
I didn't go to any loud clubs before I started going there. I never went to any concerts or listened to loud music on earbuds. I only went to The Dragon a few times before I went to the George. The George was much louder than the Dragon. I always felt it was uncomfortably loud but didn't know at the time how much of a risk I was taking with my hearing. Since it was the most popular gay venue in Dublin I felt it was my best option to try and find someone. My tinnitus was the companion I found there. It wasn't worth it. I'd advise young people not to contemplate entering any nightclub without -33db ear plugs jammed in their ears. I just wish someone had told me sooner.
# 21 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:13
Someone said :
I'd advise young people not to contemplate entering any nightclub without -33db ear plugs jammed in their ears.

Do you find the clubs you go to now are too loud?
# 22 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:46
Clubs are supposed to be loud. What freaks me out is the loud restaurants - I mean you get used to them after a few minutes but when you walk into the likes of San Lorenzos or Bow Lane you're just walloped with a wall of sound.
# 23 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:47
Bow Lane is a cocktail bar
# 24 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:47
There is a restaurant too on the other side.
# 25 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:50
I haven't been to a club since 2009. I came to the decision I didn't want to go these places anymore because they are responsible for ruining my life with tinnitus and hearing loss. When my tinnitus started in 2007 I went to get a hearing test where they said my hearing was still normal then. I asked some advice about how to protect my ears at clubs and they didn't really have much to say. I actually had to suggest if there was some kind of earplugs I could buy for wearing in a club. They didn't seem to know much about them and said I wouldn't be able to hear the music if I wore earplugs. I think audiologists are just hearing aid salespeople. I looked earplugs up on the internet and found lots of them on ebay which you wouldn't have found in any shop in Ireland at the time. I wish I'd have known about them sooner. I didn't get a PC until late 2007 so I wasn't on the internet soon enough to find this stuff out earlier.
# 26 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:54
What? No ear plugs in Ireland in 2007? Come on!!! It wasn't the Middle Ages!
# 27 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 15:57
You could earplugs in any chemist in 2007, probably in 1987!

I have some hearing damage but I reckon it was headphones rather than clubs that caused the damage.
# 28 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 16:00
I have mild tinnitus, only noticeable in completely silent environments but still annoying. My own fault for overuse of headphones.
# 29 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 16:02
After I got my permanent tinnitus in 1994 I used earplugs all the time at loud venues and they were certainly in the shops (chemists) in the 90s - the foam ones and the more expensive wax ones.
# 30 : Friday 23-6-2017 @ 16:08
They generally only have the yellow ones in any chemist I went into. They're not suitable for a music venue. If noise is so loud you need to wear ear protection there's supposed to be warning signs like on a building site. I never seen anyone wearing earplugs in a club in 2007. People often only think of using earplugs when they realise they have hearing damage. Just look at all the musicians who never wore any protection in the 70s/80s/90s.
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