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Eurovision Song Contest 2018
 
# 166 : Wednesday 16-5-2018 @ 02:18
 
 
Israel has never hosted the Eurovision in Tel Aviv, it has hosted it twice in Jerusalem (1979 & 1999). Both times Ireland participated. Also the Irish embassy is in Ramat gan, a city in between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
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# 167 : Wednesday 16-5-2018 @ 05:11
 
 
Someone said :
Israel has never hosted the Eurovision in Tel Aviv, it has hosted it twice in Jerusalem (1979 & 1999). Both times Ireland participated. Also the Irish embassy is in Ramat gan, a city in between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

Yes Irish like every other other embassy in Israel except US is not in Jerusalem as no other country recognises it as their capital.

Ireland and the other countries might have competed in a divided Jerusalem when there was an active peace process going on! I don't think any country is going to happily go to a country that is behaving as Israel is both in Jerusalem and in Gaza and towards the peace process.
The Israeli ambassador was called into our department of foreign affairs today to explain his government's actions.
They are on their way to becoming a pariah state by their own actions.
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# 168 : Wednesday 16-5-2018 @ 11:56
 
 
"Active peace process"???



Ireland will be in Jerusalem as will everyone else. And you really should research what you are posting because several countries recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
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# 169 : Wednesday 16-5-2018 @ 13:00
 
 
The anti Israeli thing (which I can be part of) is very much a western european thing
I dont think the likes of Russia. Ukraine or even the balkan states are really that bothered
It wont be boycotted by participants be interesting to see if there are large crowds going
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# 170 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 05:34
 
 
Someone said :
"Active peace process"???



Ireland will be in Jerusalem as will everyone else. And you really should research what you are posting because several countries recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Have you like heard of Rabin?
Norway accords?
Everybody still agrees on a two state strategy even Israel though they are trying to make any Palestinian state unworkable by annexing and appropriating as much land as they possibly can, but it’s still the basis for peace talks.

If you say countries recognise Jerusalem name them, come on type a list, here I’ll help you US, Guatemala, ......... who else?
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# 171 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 05:40
 
 
Someone said :
The anti Israeli thing (which I can be part of) is very much a western european thing
I dont think the likes of Russia. Ukraine or even the balkan states are really that bothered
It wont be boycotted by participants be interesting to see if there are large crowds going

Was bombing Syria an anti Syria thing? So explain why voicing why world wide disquiet and UN condemnation of lethal force used against civilians is an anti Israel thing?

Btw the European broadcasting union won’t allow Israel to hijack Eurovision to annex Jerusalem which must become the JOINT capital of Palestine and Israel when peace is agreed between both states, that’s the international agreed position.
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# 172 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 11:46
 
 
Someone said :

Btw the European broadcasting union won’t allow Israel to hijack Eurovision to annex Jerusalem which must become the JOINT capital of Palestine and Israel when peace is agreed between both states, that’s the international agreed position.

All your posts on this thread are all untrue as your brexit posts are. The EBU has already had their first meetings with the Israeli broadcaster. This will be Israel's THIRD Eurovision in Jerusalem and no amount of bullshit from you will say otherwise!

You are incorporating politics into a tv show.
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# 173 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 13:20
 
 
In fairness, the Eurovision has always been influenced by politics. Look at how many countries give their neighboring countries top points in voting and previous boycotts.

If anything, Israel hosting the event will up the political stakes. I can certainly see Turkey boycotting.
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# 174 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 13:33
 
 
Someone said :
In fairness, the Eurovision has always been influences by politics. Look at how many countries give their neighboring countries top points in voting and previous boycotts.

Like who? What neighbours gave Israel and Portugal their wins? The bloc voting argument has been debunked several times. Even Trinity college did an analysis of voting patterns are found it largely untrue.
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# 175 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 13:38
 
 
Someone said :

You are incorporating politics into a tv show.

Wasn't Ukraine's winning entry in 2016 '1944' fairly political..?
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# 176 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 14:11
 
 
I guess. Or personal. It happened to her Grandmother.
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# 177 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 14:34
 
 
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I guess. Or personal. It happened to her Grandmother.

Still, it was a song about Russian oppression at a time when Russia had just annexed Crimea.. A cleverly veiled highly political anti-Russian song..
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# 178 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 14:42
 
 
What part of the song was anti Russian?
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# 179 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 14:50
 
 
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# 180 : Thursday 17-5-2018 @ 14:55
 
 

I know the lyrics. That's why I asked. Now show me where it's anti Russian.
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