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# 1 : Thursday 20-12-2018 @ 23:18
 
 
Just had a discussing with a friend of mine whose doing a project for college. Now she had to ask a couple of questions like are the travellers judge wrong do people have a bad impression of them and that they shouldn't all be judged the same. Now I gave my opinion like the majority probably are in to crime I wouldn't trust most of them and I have seen a few people burnt by them. Also wouldn't marry one or be friends with them. Do you think I'm being judgemental or would the majority of us share the same opinion
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# 2 : Friday 21-12-2018 @ 00:24
 
 
Totally disagree, why should the actions of a very few very rotten eggs apply to the 14,000 other travellers who are decent law abiding citizens who happen to be on the lower rung of society, they are no more responsible for their actions as are the inner city folk for the criminal scum that blight their reputations.
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# 3 : Friday 21-12-2018 @ 02:03
 
 
It is grossly unfair to judge any group by the actions of a minority within that group - look at how society here judged LGBT people negatively in the past.

That said, the huge support for Peter Casey in his Presidential bid after his comments on travellers show that a lot of people in this country believe that there are are problems with travellers and their interactions with the settled community and that many who shout “discrimination” such as Pavee Point should look closer to home to see just why so many Irish people, whilst much more accepting of other minorities, including LGBT and ethnic minorities, still have issues with travellers.
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# 4 : Friday 21-12-2018 @ 14:06
 
 
And I thought bisexuals were the pariahs
No even they want to throw bricks at the travellers and voted crazy Casey ...
He thinks Derry is a constituency
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# 5 : Friday 21-12-2018 @ 14:12
 
 
Someone said :
It is grossly unfair to judge any group by the actions of a minority within that group - look at how society here judged LGBT people negatively in the past.

That said, the huge support for Peter Casey in his Presidential bid after his comments on travellers show that a lot of people in his country believe that there are are problems with travellers and their interactions with the settled community and that many who shout “discrimination” such as Pavee Point should look closer to home to see just why so many Irish people, whilst much more accepting of other minorities, including LGBT and ethnic minorities, still have issues with travellers.

A lot of minority groups including LGBTQ folks, have respect for the law and behave most of the time. I find it hard, to find a member of the Travelling group who do likewise and respect is earned.
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# 6 : Friday 21-12-2018 @ 17:31
 
 
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# 7 : Friday 21-12-2018 @ 23:07
 
 
I don't see what the issue is, if travellers are entitled to social welfare it's not more or less than settled people.
If travellers are working and not paying tax it's not more or less than settled people.
The crime issue is s bit disturbing because what's being stolen in rural Ireland are things that are being resold in rural Ireland so not saying who is stealing anything but if there is a thriving black market isn't this the blame for crime ie if you want to stop crime stop interacting with the black economy and stop looking for somebody to blame for your own behaviour.
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# 8 : Saturday 22-12-2018 @ 14:55
 
 
A Traveller delivers my wood for my stove burner and he is nice, puts it in the shed and the wood is dry and cut to fit the stove and he gives me a tailor load and the thing is he is cheaper then the normal fellow I use to get and the fellow never put the wood in the shed for me. And the family always do odd jobs for me and I have never had trouble from them. The trouble I get are from the teens who have families that are well respected in the town.
And I have also allowed them to have a vegetable garden on my farm and they have not caused any hassle and work away and also I give them eggs and they are grateful and very chatty people. I never judge people on what others seem to say and I always make up my own mind. They have never hassled me and always say they are grateful because not everyone is happy to help them out. Some of The village folk are not to pleased and I get letters in my mail box asking me to move them on but I ignore them as why as the ones that should be moved on are the teens of the families whom are getting away with everything.
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# 9 : Saturday 22-12-2018 @ 21:22
 
 
There are a few, who are okay and keep to themselves. They are very small in number, not enough to tell the others to cop on and earn respect.
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# 10 : Saturday 22-12-2018 @ 21:32
 
 
So the quiet people are relatively invisible. Not judging the entire community by the assholes are you?
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# 11 : Saturday 22-12-2018 @ 21:34
 
 
I hope one day more people realise how bizarre many aspects of conversations like this are – the sheer othering of an entire community, while very often having a sense of impunity from the responsibilities and issues within society themselves – if I am to be judged by any action beyond my own, I would expect those who would seek to treat me in such a way – to also be held to such an excruciating standard.

Senseless of course.

What’s this thread about – throwing out damaging and clearly questionable comments and thoughts about Travellers, with the expectation that there’s none here? We are not a separate community – we are LGBT+ too.

We are also not here to be told that people wouldn’t trust us or expect us to be criminally involved, or judged by those most inclined to chaos or the brightest most dazelling among us – were here, struggling to survive, as much as any other, besieged by casual to direct comments on our worth, value and place in the world, along with huge structural and societal influences that need to be understood rather then a cause of judgement and ongoing othering.

I’ve edited the opening comment to reinforce my point:

Just had a discussing with a friend of mine whose doing a project for college. Now she had to ask a couple of questions like are LGBT+ people judge wrong do people have a bad impression of them and that they shouldn't all be judged the same.

Now I gave my opinion like the majority of LGBT+ people are probably in to crime I wouldn't trust most LGBT+ people and I have seen a few people burnt by them. Also wouldn't marry a LGBT+ person or be friends with them.

Do you think I'm being judgemental or would the majority of us share the same opinion about LGBT+ people.
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# 12 : Saturday 22-12-2018 @ 23:00
 
 

Brilliant post!
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# 13 : Sunday 23-12-2018 @ 07:31
 
 
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# 14 : Sunday 23-12-2018 @ 08:42
 
 

Why not say something instead of random link dumping
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# 15 : Sunday 23-12-2018 @ 08:43
 
 
Someone said :
Just had a discussing with a friend of mine whose doing a project for college. Now she had to ask a couple of questions like are the travellers judge wrong do people have a bad impression of them and that they shouldn't all be judged the same. Now I gave my opinion like the majority probably are in to crime I wouldn't trust most of them and I have seen a few people burnt by them. Also wouldn't marry one or be friends with them. Do you think I'm being judgemental or would the majority of us share the same opinion

Are the majority of Irish people bigoted towards travellers? I dont think so but there certainly is a large number that are.
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