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# 46 : Wednesday 2-1-2019 @ 07:09
 
 
Someone said :
I think I judge myself and fellow settled people as much or more as I judge travellers.

So hopefully that makes any travellers reading this feel better.

And I also feel a certain admiration for travellers.

I think there is a strong mistrust between settled people and travellers. Maybe that's a better word than judgment.

One problem as I see it is that there very few travellers working or employed in conventional jobs. I've met one traveller working in McDonald's but he's the only one that I know of who is employed in a job. The strong mistrust stops settled employers from employing travellers. Travellers thus have to make their financial way through life by other means. Sometimes that's drawing the dole, some have businesses. Horse trading, scrap collecting, money lending etc.

The mistrust and the lack of normal employment opportunities are the stem of a lot of the problems travellers face in my opinion.

Concentrating on job creation, do you see a major reson preventing people from a travellers' background, who have a legitimate business, to become employers of fellow travellers, all in the open market?

Sidenote: how many realize that most "settled" businessesbusinesses consider that cash transactions are "tax free", and their accountants know all the tricks to avoid/evade taxes?
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# 47 : Wednesday 2-1-2019 @ 10:07
 
 
Someone said :

You dont have a "solution" - just a crazy idea

In your opinion.
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# 48 : Wednesday 2-1-2019 @ 17:55
 
 
Someone said :


Now that's very mature!
If you can't answer the question just say so.
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# 49 : Wednesday 2-1-2019 @ 18:14
 
 
FF/FG/L, have the Country in the mess it is now in and they have to be voted out of existence!
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# 50 : Thursday 3-1-2019 @ 09:07
 
 
Someone said :

Sidenote: how many realize that most "settled" businessesbusinesses consider that cash transactions are "tax free", and their accountants know all the tricks to avoid/evade taxes?

Revenue are not that backwards Blah. There's heaps of cash businesses.
Cash registers handle the cash.
And revenue have statistic knowledge of all types of businesses so have a fair knowledge if a business is trying to hide cash.
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# 51 : Thursday 3-1-2019 @ 09:49
 
 
Someone said :

Revenue are not that backwards Blah. There's heaps of cash businesses.
Cash registers handle the cash.
And revenue have statistic knowledge of all types of businesses so have a fair knowledge if a business is trying to hide cash.

Cash register = high volumes, small amounts.
Statistical knowledge is based on declared frequency.

Thus in low volume high value businesses, with a tax evasion culture... Revenue is easily sideblinded!
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# 52 : Sunday 6-1-2019 @ 22:18
 
 
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FF/FG/L, have the Country in the mess it is now in and they have to be voted out of existence!

Not happening anytime soon
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# 53 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 11:16
 
 
I had to bring an elderly relative to hospital over Christmas and omg the behaviour of the travellers there put me right off.
First of all they parked in the ambulance area, even though there was space in the car parks and it's not that expensive .
Then the security guards approached them to move and of course there was a confrontation and then the guards were called and at the end of it all they didn't move.
There were about 30 of them in the waiting room and one of them was being treated and it was chaos .
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# 54 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 13:21
 
 
Someone said :
I had to bring an elderly relative to hospital over Christmas and omg the behaviour of the travellers there put me right off.
First of all they parked in the ambulance area, even though there was space in the car parks and it's not that expensive .
Then the security guards approached them to move and of course there was a confrontation and then the guards were called and at the end of it all they didn't move.
There were about 30 of them in the waiting room and one of them was being treated and it was chaos .

Surely not?
Sure there's only one or two bad eggs in the traveling community wrecking it for the rest
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# 55 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 14:11
 
 
Someone said :

Surely not?
Sure there's only one or two bad eggs in the traveling community wrecking it for the rest

That's the general consensus here. Saying anything contrary to that is akin to shooting oneself in the foot.
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# 56 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 17:16
 
 

If you want to talk about many bad eggs that caused the most people damage in Ireland and which group they came from it was bankers and they went unpunished .
It's curious that choosing a group to pick for crime the ones that do and have done the most damage are completely ignored instead long for the most visible group.
Why is that?
If the issue really is crime why aren't you talking about drug gangs?
If the issue really is tac why aren't you talking about white collar tax evasion?
If the issue is the application of laws by police why aren't you talking about policing?
If the issue of sentencing why aren't you talking about judicial system.
Or prison system.
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# 57 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 17:49
 
 


You need to start a few new threads.
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# 58 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 18:03
 
 
Someone said :


You need to start a few new threads.

.........and he's off.
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# 59 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 20:16
 
 
Someone said :

That's the general consensus here. Saying anything contrary to that is akin to shooting oneself in the foot.

Really? What foot would that be now? The one that would perhaps suggest that a questionable behaviour from specific people should be representative of an entire community? Surely not.
If I’m to be measured or as the title says, judged, by the most chaotic among us – then I expect others to be held to the same principle.
This thread has to be pretty corrosive to other LGBT+ Travellers who use Gaire.
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# 60 : Tuesday 8-1-2019 @ 21:15
 
 
Someone said :

That's the general consensus here. Saying anything contrary to that is akin to shooting oneself in the foot.

How would you like to be called a slut or even a paedophile because of narrow minded generalizations that people might demand that you fit into. Judge the person, not the group!
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