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Undetectable = Untransmittable ?
 
# 1 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 12:30
 
 
Would you be comfortable having unprotected sex with an HIV+ partner on PrEP/STR-like treatments?

https://m.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/would-you-be-shock etc ...
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# 2 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 17:44
 
 
Could you possibly change the question to reflect the content in the attached article, before asking questions !!!

Both these people ( in the article are fully protected !!) yet you asked " would you be comfortable having unprotected sex with an HIV + partner !"

If you do reply ? I would be grateful you don't try to bluff !!
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# 3 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 19:49
 
 
Someone said :
Could you possibly change the question to reflect the content in the attached article, before asking questions !!!

Both these people ( in the article are fully protected !!) yet you asked " would you be comfortable having unprotected sex with an HIV + partner !"

If you do reply ? I would be grateful you don't try to bluff !!

Do you consider that a girl on the pill has "protected sex" when no condom is used?
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# 4 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 20:10
 
 
Someone said :

Do you consider that a girl on the pill has "protected sex" when no condom is used?

Bluffer !!!

As for your question ?
Being on the pill is protected sex as far as wishing to avoid a pregnancy can afford in so much as this couple ( in the article ) are using pills to avoid transmission of HIV which is proven by the way to work !!

Are you suggesting that every couple in a relationship should use condoms ?
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# 5 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 20:30
 
 
No.
I am suggesting that not using one = having unprotected sex.

Unprotected sex in a couple is fine if they are OK with the risks: unprotected still.

But as you suggested I edited the OP to reflect the pill.
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# 6 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 20:39
 
 
Someone said :
No.
I am suggesting that not using one = having unprotected sex.

Unprotected sex in a couple is fine if they are OK with the risks: unprotected still.

But as you suggested I edited the OP to reflect the pill.

So let's get this straight ?
This couple ( seven years ) are in a loving relationship and not using condoms .
They aren't at risk of one passing on HIV .
So how are they any different from any couple in a long term relationship of seven years who do not use condoms ??
Please don't even try to bluff and imagine long term couples use condoms !!
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# 7 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 20:48
 
 
Long term exclusive couples need not using condoms when they are not caring anything. Obviously.

That's the whole point of this thread: would you trust these 1-pill treatments, knowing how any mis-use can dramatically reduce efficiency?

Would you agree that Undetectable = Untransmittable ?
Obviously you do. It does not mean the question ought not to be asked.
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# 8 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 20:57
 
 
Someone said :
Long term exclusive couples need not using condoms when they are not caring anything. Obviously.

That's the whole point of this thread: would you trust these 1-pill treatments, knowing how any mis-use can dramatically reduce efficiency?

Would you agree that Undetectable = Untransmittable ?
Obviously you do. It does not mean the question ought not to be asked.

I believe you need to go and fully educate yourself on the subject before opening such a thread !!!

Pay particular attention to the success rate of these medications with regards to the unlikely transmission of HIV to partners !!
By the way if this was in regards to a form of contraception you wouldn't even be interested !!

Individuals with HIV suffer enough stigma !!
This article not only covers this but it also proves it is possible using trusted medications to have relationships without using added protection and not transmit HIV .
Did you even read the article before you typed ??
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# 9 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 21:07
 
 
Someone said :

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By the way if this was in regards to a form of contraception you wouldn't even be interested !!
[...]

Maybe you would not: I would.
People have fallen pregnant while on the pill, and while using condoms too.

And the article did not "prove" anything. It just shares his view, experience, and beliefs.

By the way, you do not even know at this point what I think about it, and if I would trust or not an HIV partner enough to take the risk.(However minimal the risk)

For some reason you seem to have jumped to conclusions, just because I asked the question, and/or because I did not considered that a pill qualifies as "protected sex".

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# 10 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 21:29
 
 
Someone said :

Maybe you would not: I would.
People have fallen pregnant while on the pill, and while using condoms too.

And the article did not "prove" anything. It just shares his view, experience, and beliefs.

By the way, you do not even know at this point what I think about it, and if I would trust or not an HIV partner enough to take the risk.(However minimal the risk)

For some reason you seem to have jumped to conclusions, just because I asked the question, and/or because I did not considered that a pill qualifies as "protected sex".

I've jumped to no conclusions about you !!
I replied based on your initial question .
It's beyond crass IMO.
Given the stigma surrounding individuals who are HIV positive we should be educating ourselves that it's entirely possible via the use of medication/ drug treatments to engage in sexual activity without worrying about transmission.

Heterosexuals aren't subjected to the same questions.
Yet it's a proven fact that the rise in the heterosexual community with regards to HIV infections has quadrupled in recent years.
By the way you're the most disengenuous poster here !!!
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# 11 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 22:35
 
 
Mod: Guys, can we please tone down the tense tone of some of the posts here, please?
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# 12 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 23:06
 
 
Someone said :
Mod: Guys, can we please tone down the tense tone of some of the posts here, please?

Yes I will cordially remove the insertion of the word " fuck " in one of my comments.
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# 13 : Sunday 11-4-2021 @ 23:07
 
 
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# 14 : Tuesday 13-4-2021 @ 00:15
 
 
I wouldn't go out with someone who couldn't keep a regieme of taking pills, if I was in a commited relationship I would have sex without condom.
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# 15 : Tuesday 13-4-2021 @ 10:32
 
 
Interestingly nothing in the OP's article suggest that the boyfriend himself is taking a prophylactic pill like PrEP, but I assume he is.
Well, I hope he is.

Just like for contraception, I don't think this pill business should rely on only one party sticking to the correct regime.

I take issue with the suggestion in the article that the boyfriend is protected by your man taking the STR pill. That creates a single point of failure, which in this case is problematic.
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