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Pavarotti Dies
 
# 61 : Thursday 6-9-2007 @ 23:43
 
 
ah,i loved his voice.

shit,i didnt see bugles joke and i posted the same one on the jokes thread.how embarrassing.
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# 62 : Thursday 6-9-2007 @ 23:59
 
 
I was driving along this morning when Gerry Rytan was on to one of them Irish Tenors about Ol Pav, and I don't Know why But I was close to tears as he was talking about him. then the played nessun dorma and I near lost the plot altogether, I have never found out what the feck that song means in English..But It always makes my hairs stand on end. Fair enough to the Fat Jokes etc, But I think he was a great singer, I doubt there will be another as good for a long time to come.

Estremità
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# 63 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 00:05
 
 
Wow,he got an eleven minute ovation at his last concert in New York,even daniel o donnel could'nt manage that.
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# 64 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 00:07
 
 
RIP Pavarottoi, he introduced me to a world of music, that I'm still learning about but loving everyday. Thank You.

For those who said that he isn't part of pop music or todays music. I offer up this little gem

U2 "Miss Sarajevo"

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Not the biggest fan of theirs but they have a few songs I really love this is one of them.
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# 65 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 00:09
 
 
Someone said :
nessun dorma and I near lost the plot altogether, I have never found out what the feck that song means in English..Estremità

English Translation

No one sleeps!
No one sleeps!
Even you, oh princess,
in your cold room,
look at the stars
that tremble with love
and hope!

But my mystery
it is locked in me.
And my name,
no one will know!
No, no!

On your mouth
I will say it,
when the light
will shine!

And my kiss will break the silence,
that makes you mine!

choir:
His name no one will know...
And we shall have, alas, to die, to die...!

Disperse, o night!
Vanish, oh stars!
Vanish, oh stars!

At daybreak, I will win!
I will win!
I will win!
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# 66 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 00:11
 
 
Someone said :

English Translation

No one sleeps!
No one sleeps!
Even you, oh princess,
in your cold room,
look at the stars
that tremble with love
and hope!

But my mystery
it is locked in me.
And my name,
no one will know!
No, no!

On your mouth
I will say it,
when the light
will shine!

And my kiss will break the silence,
that makes you mine!

choir:
His name no one will know...
And we shall have, alas, to die, to die...!

Disperse, o night!
Vanish, oh stars!
Vanish, oh stars!

At daybreak, I will win!
I will win!
I will win!

Cheer's Shaggy.
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# 67 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 00:47
 
 
Mamma Mia!

Now I have another catchphrase to say when someone famous dies, I'll use Crikey! when its an accidental death.
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# 68 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 15:04
 
 
De mortuis nihil nisi bonum , and all that, but I doubt if Pavarotti will be remembered a century from now, and he certainly won't be regarded as one of the all-time great opera singers.

Why? The New York Times obituary said it all: It is surprising how often even opera experts confuse one great artist with another, but no one ever mistook the voice of Luciano Pavarotti . And that was his great flaw. No matter what role he sang on stage, he always played the same character - Luciano Pavarotti. When Nicolai Gedda sang the part of Lt. Pinkerton in Madame Butterfly, the audience heard the heedless, naive voice of a young American officer. When Pavarotti sang it, they heard, well, just Pavarotti, BELTING it out like a fat Italian tenor. No attempt to sing in character, and every recording I've heard of him is the same. It's never Lt. Pinkerton, or the Unknown Prince, or King Riccardo singing. It's always just Pavarotti. He was the Roger Moore of the opera world. Moreover, his range was astonishingly limited. He only ever played 25 roles on stage, which for an established opera singer is very poor.

I was amused by an interview with an "opera expert" on Morning Ireland, who said he was the greatest tenor of his generation, and as proof she said that he could hold a note for longer than anyone else. Apparently that's the standard that now qualifies singers for immortality.

The people who believe he was the greatest tenor of his generation are in general the ones who don't actually go to the opera, or listen to classical music. Anyone with ears knew that Pavarotti with all his immense talent would rank fairly low compared with the great singers of the past and present.

By the time 2107 swings around he'll be classed with Richard Tauber and Mario Lanza as belonging to the class of opera singers who weren't really all that good, but they were popular.

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# 69 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 15:50
 
 
The only thing TV3 / Morning Ireland has any expertise on is saying "Howya" to Bridie in Cork during the weather report.
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# 70 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 15:58
 
 
Parker said :

By the time 2107 swings around he'll be classed with Richard Tauber and Mario Lanza as belonging to the class of opera singers who weren't really all that good, but they were popular.
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Maybe that is why he will be remembered in 2107. There is something about his voice that people like. That is why he is popular now and maybe will retain his popularity in the future.

And we all know that the greatest sin in opera/classical music is to be popular, no matter how much talent you have.
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# 71 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 16:04
 
 
He may be popular now, but he'll be replaced fairly quickly by Roberto Alagna, or the next winner of American Idol, or whoever the marketing companies decide to push on the public.

And no sweetie, we ALL don't know that the greatest sin in opera/classical music is to be popular. Maria Callas, for example, is probably better known and more popular now than when she was alive, but her position as one of the greatest singers of the century is still unchallenged.
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# 72 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 16:09
 
 
There is also a tendency to complain that while she was a good actress, her voice wasn't great, too metallic etc.

And sweetie, if you had to interview people at opera festivals about what future productions they'd like to see and watch them compete as to how many INCREDIBLY obscure operas they can name you might think differently.
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# 73 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 16:40
 
 
Presumably you're saying that because Pavarotti was popular he was automatically dismissed by opera purists. That's not true. It's his inability to sing in character and his lack of range that will result in his failure to rank among the greats.
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# 74 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 16:42
 
 
Side note:

well done on the 2000 posts!
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# 75 : Friday 7-9-2007 @ 19:02
 
 
I think he was a biblical scholar, and probably some kind of an expert in latin. Latin can be a very mystical kind of langauge, which is what brings up so emotion in the music and i suppose touches its listeners. There was a documentary on lastnight about him, he was at different get togethers with famous people, sometimes them honoring his work, and to me it seemed he felt in awe of his own life, because maybe he didnt see himself as a big star who was so honroed for his music, but that he was part of something much greater than himself, and usually these Italian Tenors are very strong Christians, the lyrics often come from the Bible, many are about God or Jesus/Abraham. He didnt seem to me in the footage as if on a pedastil about his fame, buut more delighted with himself that he could achieve so much in something that is bigger than him. I;d imagine its linked to faith. We can only imagine the funeral he was given. Probably very high up people from the Vaitcan there, talking about him. I thought he looked cute in that hat he wore, like something out of the God Father.
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